since judo is the daugther of jujitsu,should i learn judo first then jujitsu or just go straight n 2 jujitsu?

Answer 1

Everyone has their own opinion about things.

First off you should see what is available, if you are thinking classical Japanese jujitsu there is a good possibility of finding it difficult to find a school. See what is available in your area would be my first advice, second would be to check out the schools and see what they are all about. Find a place that you like.

There was an answer thing on here earlier that you can probably find that asked Judo Vs. Jujitsu type of question, there were some good answers check those out.

One of the answerers above were correct about somethings, wrong about others. First off Jujitsu also utilizes the Gi. Most of the moves with a Gi are very easily done without by utilizing the same grips, or over/under grips. Karo Parysian and Fedor Emelienko and Yoshida are all strong judo players that utilize throws in MMA matches to devasting results, all done without a gi. These arts learn with a GI for a reason, you can easily adapt to without a Gi, and by learning the places on which to control someone, or that you can be controlled by, you are able to defend take downs easily as well as understand your own balance and leverage. But again, both arts utilize the Gi.

As far as chokes go, choking someone with a Tshirt is way worst on them then choking them with a gi. Think about the difference between choking someone with a big rope, or choking them with paino wire or clothesline. The smaller it is, the more painful it is.

Jujitsu has some different elements in them that Judo does not have. Judo concentrates on the throws, off balancing and the matwork, essentially pieced together from some techniques of Jujitsu, along with other techniques from wrestling and such to make what it is today.

Jujitsu isn't any more developed for self defense, than Judo is unless of course someone is coming at you with a sword. Then you will be much more prepared from Jujitsu. Jujitsu does however have strikes,(whereas Judo doesn't concentrate on them) some great pain compliance techniques, throws and some ground finishes.

A typical jujitsu class is going to focus on forms, learning and working on katas, some weapons work with some disarms, and working on a throwing technique, and with a quick finish on the ground. Then there is some light sparring, but it is not throwing or joint lock sparring, it is usually strike sparring depending on the class. You will learn a little bit of everything with Jujitsu, after all Judo and Aikido were both founded from it. Classical Jujitsu is very much like most traditional martial arts in that way, it is very regimented, focused on forms and katas, and usually a very structured class.

Judo is more specialized than Jujitsu, it focuses not on strikes but on the off balancing and throwing that jujitsu has, and it focuses getting into a battle on the ground as well, how to maintain position and control and submit from there. While there is matwork in Jujitsu it is not specialized, and is only a form of an immediate submission after a throw. There is no matwork sparring at most classical japanese jujitsu places.

There is a sportification to Judo, however that has an incredible advantage in real combat. You can practice a thousand eye gouges on a dummy, but that doesn't mean a person resisting you is going to get sit around and let you eye gouge them or that you are going to be able do it in an adrenaline based situation. The advantage of competition is the ability to go all out, in a complete adrenaline situation against a stranger who wants to beat you. Even more challenging is the fact he is aware of the same moves you are.

I found that after becoming good at tournaments, whenever I wrapped up with a non judoka I was shocked at how easily they flew and how crappy the average persons leverage and balance are and how incredibly open to submissions they were. Sometimes I still get amazed by that.

I think if you are starting from nothing with no martial arts background what so ever, Jujitsu is a great Martial Art, you will learn how to punch, and kick, and strike, along with getting a good basis of understanding of leverage, throws and joint locks. And get an understanding of the budo spirit and what martial arts are all about.

If you already know how to punch and kick, and have been in a martial art or two and want a more specialized grappling art, Judo is a great way to go, as is BJJ, Sambo, or Catch Wrestling.

I was fortunate because my dojo had both, and I only had to pay one fee. I was able to come in early practice with the Jujitsu guys and then do Judo. It is rare to find a place like that, but there may be some out there.

I have bounced in clubs for the last 4 years, and worked in some really rough ones. I was in the army and got into plenty of drunken brawls, and more than my fair share of handling things "in the pit". My background in Judo has been way more effective than my time in Jujitsu, but that could be because I learned striking from Muay Thai and Jujitsu striking was someone obsolete in comparison. In all fairness my time in Judo was much more extensive than my time in Jujitsu.

I now do MMA and my Judo background has paid off big time in the ability to control a fight on the ground, and how it gets to the ground. Wrestling has also helped out tremendously with that. My striking doesn't come from Jujitsu or any traditional art, but from kickboxing and muay thai.

Honestly, I love classical Jujitsu, and love traditional martial arts, but as far as effectiveness I have utilized way more from Judo than pretty much anything else. I rarely trade blows in a street fight or when I am kicking a guy out, I go straight to grappling with a guy tying him up and choking him out. Fast, simple, effective, and minimizes my risk to take damage.

Most police training is based highly on Judo, however many of their pain compliance techniques come from Jujitsu. So it is a toss up there, the people who use unarmed combat the most are definately law enforcement, and they learn a good bit of both.

So see what's out there, see what you like, and go from there.

Answer 2

I have no idea where you got your information but it's not entirely correct. Brazilian Jujitsu did not come from Japanese Jujitsu. It came from Kodokan Judo came from three koryu of Japanese Jujitsu and has more emphasis on nage waza. Karate was created in Okinawa from Chinese martial arts and Okinawan martial arts. Aikido came mostly from Aikijujitsu. I also don't know why you think that Aikido doesn't have sparring. They all have randori INCLUDING Aikido. They are all great martial arts. As for Jujitsu being the best, there is no best martial art. Everything depends on the practitioner not the art. If you want something that will train you to handle any situation then I would recommend Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu, but the chances of there being a dojo near you are slim.

Answer 3

Get into the one you think is most interesting. Whichever master you have train you is going to get you to quit doing some of what the previous master said--pick a teacher you trust, and worry less about the style he is teaching.

Don't worry about which martial art would be better until you have some experience. Getting into either would teach you what you need to know.

I knew someone into judo, and wasn't really impressed by it. It seemed that half his moves were gi moves--that is, they depended on your opponent having adequate clothing to work. If someone is in your face and wearing a t-shirt, your options are more limited than if he were wearing a leather jacket or a judo gi.

At the risk of offending any judo masters out there, I'd say jujitsu is better self defense, but judo is better for tournaments and as a sport.

Answer 4

Judo is more a sport than Jujitsu. Jujitsu (as I saw it) is more personnal defense. I taught some jujitsu students judo so they could compeat in local judo tournaments.

Which you decide is a matter of your personnal temperment. Both are good. Recommend you check out both.

Answer 5

My answer is biased since I took jujitsu - so that's my answer! I don't know anything about judo really, but the class I took was excellent - you learn so many useful things.

If you're in the milwaukee area, I can recommend an excellent school.

Answer 6

I don't really see how that would benefit you. They both are very different in its own way. just because you're black belt in one, it didn't mean you will do well in other or learn other faster. It mean you know different dimesion of fighting (take down/sweep/throw or ground fight and locks) However I think it is better if you learn both at same time. If you can't afford or do both then pick one with class you like the most.

Answer 7

Jujitsu or Jujitsu's bastard son, Aikido.

Answer 8

straight into jujitsu

Answer 9

Judo first then jusitsu trust me your body will thank you in the long run.

Answer 10

You should train at which ever location has a higher quality of training. Training methods are more important than the art itself.