Do you know that the Council of Nicea, where the trinity idea got solidified, was like a barroom brawl?

Question

And some top bishops flat out said Revelation should be excluded.

Answer 1

Yes I know that and therefore I do not suport the trinity belief since it is a manmade doctrine and it is not a Bible teaching it is elaborate , contradictory and it denies an important truth about God and his Son

Answer 2

The Council of Nicea was a meeting organized by the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great. The whole point of this council was to reunite all of the Christian Bishops and unify their game plan. There were many topics covered, but what a lot of people want you to believe, especially the Davinci Code, is that here is where everyone decided if Jesus was going to be divine or not. The truth is that indeed this topic was discussed but out of the almost 300 bishops, only 5 had qualms with Jesus being divine. They were old Jews that still weren't convinced about Jeses, even though they were christian bishops. Talk about flaws in the system.

Anyhow, 3 of those 5 were quickly convinced because they were moved by Constantine's opening words (this speech later on became de Nicean creed, not verbatim, but it did serve as the base), and the other 2 were just pummeled by the majorities opinion.

What a lot of people don;t know is that here is where the date was set to celebrate Easter. At this point, church fathers weren;t exactly sure at what time the whole passion happened, so they talked about it and since the scripture said that it was around the time of Passover, they coincided with this fact.

Another thing that is out there that is and absolute lie is that at this council there was a discussion about which gospels were going to be included in the bible and that Constantine himself ordered that the four gospels that we know today be written for inclusion into the Bible, since none of the existing gospels suited his needs. This is false. THe four gospels had already been chosen long before, even if the finished version of the New Testament still took a few years to coalesce. Another thing, by this time, the famous gnostic gospels had already been declared apocryphon, so there really wasn't much competition.

Answer 3

Fortunately my faith in the one God who has revealed Himself to mankind as three separate "persons" for lack of a better word doesn't come from a group of men who gathered together to argue about it around 1600 years ago but from the Scriptures.

Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matthew 28:19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Answer 4

Yes. I also know that the western orthodox church (Roman Catholic) allowed only one creed -- heretics were burned at the stake. Thanks to St. Augustine, Jews were allowed "to survive, but not to thrive!" The Eastern Orthodox church allowed many different creeds to flourish. Disaster followed when the Eastern church requested help from the Roman Catholic Church in fending off the spread of Islam creating the Christian Crusaders. Why do Christians still consider a "crusade" as something "good?"

Answer 5

You sound like you were there at the time. How do you know so much about it? I doubt too many other people have put as much effort into learning about that council as you obviously have. Kudos.

Answer 6

I dont think that they desputed over the book of Revelation, I don't think that was until Hippo in 393.

Answer 7

And your point is?

You ever been to the big Southern Baptist Convention? And they don't have the excuse of being 1,700 years LESS civilized either.

Answer 8

I guess you were there. Otherwise the information is here say evidence without foundation.

Answer 9

Yes, I did. Fairy tales are often revised.