catholics and protestants please help?

Question

what is the difference between the duay version and the king james?they differ in # of books.why are not the other books accepted.christians claim to read the same book[bible].which one should i consider correct if you guys dont accept each others book?i would appreciate a precise answer.thanx

please try an give an answer to question as opposed to comment.i trying to learn something here. thanx.

Answer 1

The New Testament canon of the Catholic Bible and the Protestant Bible are the same.

The difference in the Old Testaments actually goes back to the time before and during Christ’s life. At this time, there was no official Jewish canon of scripture.

The Jews in Egypt translated their choices of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek in the second century before Christ. This translation, called the Septuagint, had wide use in the Roman world because most Jews lived far from Palestine in Greek cities. Many of these Jews spoke only Greek.

The early Christian Church was born into this world. The Church, with its bilingual Jews and more and more Greek-speaking Gentiles, used the books of the Septuagint as its Bible. Remember the early Christians were just writing the documents what would become the New Testament.

After the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, with increasing persecution from the Romans and competition from the fledgling Christian Church, the Jewish leaders came together and declared its official canon of Scripture, eliminating seven books from the Septuagint.

The Christian Church did not follow suit but kept all the books in the Septuagint.

1500 years later, Protestants decided to change its Old Testament from the Catholic canon to the Jewish canon. The books they dropped are sometimes called the Apocrypha.

With love in Christ.

Answer 2

there are false bibles amidst us.

This is a very -very serious study that I am going to show you.

There are 178 verses omitted from the bible in (majorly) niv (new international version). I will not suggest you to buy not even King James Version or new KJV.

The bible that you SHOULD buy must have this

1.King James version which has this written on it-
“Translated out of the original tounges and with the former translations diligently compared and revised.

2. authorised King James Version.

3. the words of Jesus should be printed in red. (so that you will better understand the distinction between writer’s writing & Jesus words.

But if you have budget than buy niv also for witnessing the false translation subject to others.

Find the evidence:

Isaiah 14 verse 12 does not have Lucifer’s name in most of the translations - & that’s the one & only place it appears.

#Entire 17 verses omitted

Mathew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14,

mark 7:16,9:44,46 11:26,15:28

Luke 17:36, 23:17,

John 5:4,

acts 8:37, 15:34, 24:7, 28:29

romans 16:24
1 john 5:7


And portions of 178 verses ommited.
173 times name of lord Jesus Christ ommited
38 times lord Jesus
43 times Christ
lord 35 times
God 31 times
Other names of God 26 times
36 times hell is changed.

Usefull web details:

Visit these links

http://www.biblebelievers.com/williams_d1.html

www.biblebelievers.com/bookshop/daniels_RCC/daniels_excerpt01.html


these are few helpful links.

God bless you.
Vicky kamal Maurya
Servant of God.




NIV- NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION

NLT – NEW LIVING TRANSLATION

NLV – NEW LIFE VERSION

ASV- AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION

NIVUK- NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION UK

NIrV- NEW INTERNATIONAL READER’S VERSION

ESV- ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION

HCSB- HOLMAN CHRISTIAN STANDARD BIBLE

NASB- NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE

AMP- AMPLIFIED BIBLE

MSG- THE MESSAGE

YLT- YOUNG’S LITERAL TRANSLATION

YOU CAN FIND THESE ALL AT www.biblegateway.com

AND YOU CAN SEARCH ISAIAH 14:12

Answer 3

The Catholic Bible includes a few more books called canonical by catholics and apocrypha by protestants, Luther and the Protestants removed them since they support the catholic (and jewish) custom of praying for the dead and purgatory.
Catholics follow the books contained in the Greek translation of the OT called the Septuagint this was the most widely used during the first christian times. Even the NT has some quotations from these books (with really tells you they are inspired).
The Jews wanted to differentiate from the Christians and decided a new canon of the OT by a Jewish council in Jamnia in the first centuries AD.
It's quite funny that Protestants follow a Jewish council long after Christianity was established.

Answer 4

The Dewey Rheims Bible is the literal english translation of the Latin Vulgate, which was the only Bible used at the time. The King James Version was an english translation of the Protestant Bible. Martin Luther threw out seven old testament books that where in the Bible after he left the Catholic Church and started the Protestant Reformation.
Martin Luther had no authorithy to tamper with and destroy the word of God, but he translated his own Bible which all Protestants use.

Answer 5

Wow, what an interesting question. Just from my knowledge I guessed that the differences were related to the religious upheaval in Europe during the 16th century, but I had no idea regarding the specifics of the version. I included the first website that I came to, and it seems to have a pretty good explanation of what he Douai Version is. Check it out, and hopefully it will answer any question better than I have.

Answer 6

The KJV has fewer books. It leaves out books like BELL AND THE DRAGON that is included in the catholic bible.
The KJV has the Original 10 Commandments while the catholic bible has the ADJUSTED version to downplay idol worship.

The KJV is from the TEXTUS RECEPTUS while the catholic version is from the VATICANUS.
Different Scribes with different agendas.

Answer 7

Many Catholics attend meetings to help them with their addiction. Funny though that God seems to be their main message. They introduce themselves and tell how they have been a catholic for so many years. Then they have to spend the rest of the week abstainigh from theism. Then again on Sunday they repeat the process all over again.

Answer 8

The Catholics have different and more books which they claim are divine the Protestants disagree with them. Welcome to Christianity.

Answer 9

Those are different translations of the Bible. Enigma21 has stated it good enough so I wouldn't elaborate on it. Instead, I'll challenge whynotaskdon. whynotaskdon, refute this early christian writings and writings of the church fathers by showing that the early Church DID NOT hold the same books(not just numbers) the Catholic Church has today as their Bible. I found your answer to the asker's question devoid of scholarship.

The Didache
"You shall not waver with regard to your decisions [Sir. 1:28]. Do not be someone who stretches out his hands to receive but withdraws them when it comes to giving [Sir. 4:31]" (Didache 4:5 [A.D. 70]).

The Letter of Barnabas
"Since, therefore, [Christ] was about to be manifested and to suffer in the flesh, his suffering was foreshown. For the prophet speaks against evil, `Woe to their soul, because they have counseled an evil counsel against themselves' [Isa. 3:9], saying, `Let us bind the righteous man because he is displeasing to us' [Wis. 2:12.]" (Letter of Barnabas 6:7 [A.D. 74]).

Pope Clement I
"By the word of his might [God] established all things, and by his word he can overthrow them. `Who shall say to him, "What have you done?" or who shall resist the power of his strength?' [Wis. 12:12]" (Letter to the Corinthians 27:5 [ca. A.D. 80]).

Polycarp of Smyrna
"Stand fast, therefore, in these things, and follow the example of the Lord, being firm and unchangeable in the faith, loving the brotherhood [1 Pet. 2:17]. . . . When you can do good, defer it not, because `alms delivers from death' [Tob. 4:10, 12:9]. Be all of you subject to one another [1 Pet. 5:5], having your conduct blameless among the Gentiles [1 Pet. 2:12], and the Lord may not be blasphemed through you. But woe to him by whom the name of the Lord is blasphemed [Isa 52:5]!" (Letter to the Philadelphians 10 [A.D. 135]).

Irenaeus of Lyons
"Those . . . who are believed to be presbyters by many, but serve their own lusts and do not place the fear of God supreme in their hearts, but conduct themselves with contempt toward others and are puffed up with the pride of holding the chief seat [Matt. 23:6] and work evil deeds in secret, saying `No man sees us,' shall be convicted by the Word, who does not judge after outward appearance, nor looks upon the countenance, but the heart; and they shall hear those words to be found in Daniel the prophet: `O you seed of Canaan and not of Judah, beauty has deceived you and lust perverted your heart' [Dan. 13:56]. You that have grown old in wicked days, now your sins which you have committed before have come to light, for you have pronounced false judgments and have been accustomed to condemn the innocent and to let the guilty go free, although the Lord says, `You shall not slay the innocent and the righteous' [Dan. 13:52, citing Ex. 23:7]" (Against Heresies 4:26:3 [A.D. 189]; Dan. 13 is not in the Protestant Bible).

Irenaeus of Lyons
"Jeremiah the prophet has pointed out that as many believers as God has prepared for this purpose, to multiply those left on the earth, should both be under the rule of the saints and to minister to this [new] Jerusalem and that [his] kingdom shall be in it, saying, `Look around Jerusalem toward the east and behold the joy which comes to you from God himself. Behold, your sons whom you have sent forth shall come: They shall come in a band from the east to the west. . . . God shall go before with you in the light of his splendor, with the mercy and righteousness which proceed from him' [Bar. 4:36-5:9]" (ibid. 5:35:1; Baruch was often reckoned as part of Jeremiah, as it is here).

Hippolytus
"What is narrated here [in the story of Susannah] happened at a later time, although it is placed at the front of the book [of Daniel], for it was a custom with the writers to narrate many things in an inverted order in their writings. . . . [W]e ought to give heed, beloved, fearing lest anyone be overtaken in any transgression and risk the loss of his soul, knowing as we do that God is the judge of all and the Word himself is the eye which nothing that is done in the world escapes. Therefore, always watchful in heart and pure in life, let us imitate Susannah" (Commentary on Daniel [A.D. 204]; the story of Susannah [Dan. 13] is not in the Protestant Bible).

Cyprian of Carthage
"In Genesis [it says], `And God tested Abraham and said to him, "Take your only son whom you love, Isaac, and go to the high land and offer him there as a burnt offering . . . "' [Gen 22:1-2] ... Of this same thing in the Wisdom of Solomon [it says], `Although in the sight of men they suffered torments, their hope is full of immortality . . .' [Wis. 3:4]. Of this same thing in the Maccabees [it says], `Was not Abraham found faithful when tested, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness'" [1 Macc. 2:52; see Jas. 2:21-23] (Treatises 7:3:15 [A.D. 248]).

Cyprian of Carthage
"So Daniel, too, when he was required to worship the idol Bel, which the people and the king then worshipped, in asserting the honor of his God, broke forth with full faith and freedom, saying, `I worship nothing but the Lord my God, who created the heaven and the earth' [Dan. 14:5]" (Letters 55:5 [A.D. 253]; Dan. 14 is not in the Protestant Bible).

Council of Rome
"Now indeed we must treat of the divine Scriptures, what the universal Catholic Church accepts and what she ought to shun. The order of the Old Testament begins here: Genesis, one book; Exodus, one book; Leviticus, one book; Numbers, one book; Deuteronomy, one book; Joshua [Son of] Nave, one book; Judges, one book; Ruth, one book; Kings, four books [that is, 1 and 2 Samuel and 1 and 2 Kings]; Paralipomenon [Chronicles], two books; Psalms, one book; Solomon, three books: Proverbs, one book; Ecclesiastes, one book; Canticle of Canticles, one book; likewise Wisdom, one book; Ecclesiasticus, one book . . . . Likewise the order of the historical [books]: Job, one book; Tobit, one book; Esdras, two books [Ezra and Nehemiah]; Esther, one book; Judith, one book; Maccabees, two books" (Decree of Pope Damasus [A.D. 382]).

Council of Hippo
"[It has been decided] that besides the canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture. But the canonical Scriptures are as follows: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua the Son of Nun, Judges, Ruth, the Kings, four books, the Chronicles, two books, Job, the Psalter, the five books of Solomon, the twelve books of the Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Ezra, two books, Maccabees, two books . . ." (canon 36 [A.D. 393]).

Council of Carthage III
"[It has been decided] that nothing except the canonical Scriptures should be read in the Church under the name of the divine Scriptures. But the canonical Scriptures are: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, Paralipomenon, two books, Job, the Psalter of David, five books of Solomon [Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom, Sirach], twelve books of the Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, two books of Esdras, two books of the Maccabees . . ." (canon 47 [A.D. 397]).

Augustine
"The whole canon of the Scriptures, however, in which we say that consideration is to be applied, is contained in these books: the five of Moses . . . and one book of Joshua [Son of] Nave, one of Judges; one little book which is called Ruth . . . then the four of Kingdoms, and the two of Paralipomenon . . . . [T]here are also others too, of a different order . . . such as Job and Tobit and Esther and Judith and the two books of Maccabees, and the two of Esdras . . . . Then there are the Prophets, in which there is one book of the Psalms of David, and three of Solomon. . . . But as to those two books, one of which is entitled Wisdom and the other of which is entitled Ecclesiasticus and which are called `of Solomon' because of a certain similarity to his books, it is held most certainly that they were written by Jesus Sirach. They must, however, be accounted among the prophetic books, because of the authority which is deservedly accredited to them" (Christian Instruction 2:8:13 [A.D. 397]).

Augustine
"God converted [King Assuerus] and turned the latter's indignation into gentleness [Es. 15:11]" (The Grace of Christ and Original Sin 1:24:25 [A.D. 418]; this passage is not in the Protestant Bible).

Augustine
"We read in the books of the Maccabees [2 Macc. 12:43] that sacrifice was offered for the dead. But even if it were found nowhere in the Old Testament writings, the authority of the Catholic Church which is clear on this point is of no small weight, where in the prayers of the priest poured forth to the Lord God at his altar the commendation of the dead has its place" (The Care to be Had for the Dead 1:3 [A.D. 421]).

The Apostolic Constitutions
"Now women also prophesied. Of old, Miriam the sister of Moses and Aaron [Ex. 15:20], and after her, Deborah [Judges. 4:4], and after these Huldah [2 Kgs. 22:14] and Judith [Judith 8], the former under Josiah and the latter under Darius" (Apostolic Constitutions 8:2 [A.D. 400]).

Jerome
"What sin have I committed if I follow the judgment of the churches? But he who brings charges against me for relating [in my preface to the book of Daniel] the objections that the Hebrews are wont to raise against the story of Susannah [Dan. 13], the Song of the Three Children [Dan. 3:24-90], and the story of Bel and the Dragon [Dan. 14], which are not found in the Hebrew volume, proves that he is just a foolish sycophant. I was not relating my own personal views, but rather the remarks that they are wont to make against us. If I did not reply to their views in my preface, in the interest of brevity, lest it seem that I was composing not a preface, but a book, I believe I added promptly the remark, for I said, `This is not the time to discuss such matters'" (Against Rufinius 11:33 [A.D. 401]).

Pope Innocent I
"A brief addition shows what books really are received in the canon. These are the things of which you desired to be informed verbally: of Moses, five books, that is, of Genesis, of Exodus, of Leviticus, of Numbers, of Deuteronomy, and Joshua, of Judges, one book, of Kings, four books, and also Ruth, of the Prophets, sixteen books, of Solomon, five books, the Psalms. Likewise of the histories, Job, one book, of Tobit, one book, Esther, one, Judith, one, of the Maccabees, two, of Esdras, two, Paralipomenon, two books . . ." (Letters 7 [A.D. 408]).

The African Code
"[It has been decided] that besides the canonical Scriptures nothing be read in church under the name of divine Scripture. But the canonical Scriptures are as follows: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua the Son of Nun, Judges, Ruth, the Kings, four books, the Chronicles, two books, Job, the Psalter, the five books of Solomon, the twelve books of the Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Ezra, two books, Maccabees, two books . . . Let this be sent to our brother and fellow bishop, [Pope] Boniface, and to the other bishops of those parts, that they may confirm this canon, of these are the things which we have received from our fathers to be read in church" (canon 24 [A.D. 419]).