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Wouldn't that mean that there is conditions for God to love you.

2006-08-24 09:59:46 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Is eternal condemnation where all the mints, ketchup, and special sause are? How nice would that be!! ;o)

2006-08-24 10:01:11 · answer #1 · answered by Karrien Sim Peters 5 · 2 0

When they say "unconditional love" what they mean is that no matter what God loves you and will forgive you. As long as you are on Earth, you can always repent. Hell can still exist. God doesn't force you to go there. He has warned all of us and it is our decision as to where we'll go. I think that parents are a good example. A parent loves their child unconditionally but that doesn't mean that they save that child from ever getting in trouble. Part of being a parent is allowing your child to make their own choices and mistakes and letting them suffer the consequences. I think saying that there is no Hell is just a cop out. It says in the Bible that there is a lake of burning sulfur in which the condemned will burn forever and ever. It may not call it Hell, but it is mentioned. And if you are really serious about this question, anyone who claims to believe in a god MUST believe what the book of their religion says, the Bible in this case. How can you even know who a god is without any other evidence?

2006-08-24 10:16:10 · answer #2 · answered by Randomguy 2 · 0 0

It depends on what you mean by eternal condemnation. A God that loves unconditionally will not force His creation(s) to be with Him if they decide in their awareness of good and bad that they would rather not be with Him (case in point: Satan). Their other choice would be separation for the source of their life, which could be nothing less than destruction. So, if by eternal condemnation you mean eternal death, then the answer is yes. But, if by eternal condemnation you refer to the eternal place of torture, that is Hell, then the answer is no. Hell was invented by the ancient pagans and adopted into biblical teachings by Catholic church, and then proliferated by all the religions spun off from there. The goal of the spreading of such an idea is to scare the masses (most of them poor and hungry) out of their money by convincing them that the only power to avoid this worse-than-death fate is to do everything the church tells them. This has nothing to do with love--it's about money. And finally, you're right, that would mean there were conditions for God (assuming you mean your creator) to love you. The truth is, He loves you unconditionally and you have no reason (based on the Bible--ancient Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek Scriptures) to fear a place of eternal torture. There is only life and death.

2006-08-24 10:09:15 · answer #3 · answered by Zebra4 5 · 0 0

Christians believe that God does not love unconditionally. God loves on the condition of perfection. God does not love those for whom His Son did not die. Thus God loves the elect, and only the elect.

You'll have to look into Calvinism, because non-Calvinistic Christians do not have any kind of sense reason or logic.

So God does have conditions on His love. It is simply that His Son has fulfilled the conditions necessary, and the elect receive those conditions given to them.

2006-08-24 10:12:36 · answer #4 · answered by breadloaf76 2 · 0 0

Hmm. Difficult question that I don't think there is a correct or wrong answer to.

I'm probably not the only person that will answer with the two words: "Free Will." Can God really love a creation that is apart from Him if He is controlling them? I think of Pinnochio -- a marionette doll. If we are all just marionnette dolls, controlled by a Creator/God and have no choice but to act as he intends, is that unconditional love.

The theory or line of thinking that this is all God's responsibility is faulty, as if He is sending us to eternal condemnation. What if we are responsible for ourselves, our own Free Will to choose God or to not choose God?

I love my children, but I still correct them because I love them. I place no conditions on my love, and they are free do do as they please.

I'm getting off track here, but are you getting the gist of what I'm trying to say here?

2006-08-24 10:13:31 · answer #5 · answered by benshaunapotter 1 · 0 0

There is no place of eternal condemnation. The gift of God is eternal life and those who are going to hell will not burn for eternity because that would mean that they have eternal life too. That is not in the Bible that sinners will be burning in hell forever, they will burn forever until they are no more.

Because of sin, we are witnesses of the reality of sin and what it does. That is why God had to die to redeem us and he will come again and save us and rid the universe of sin, sinners and the devil Satan forever.

Before there was sin, no one knew really what it was it was just a bad thing. But sooner or later it would arise and Lucifer initiated it and therefore in God's infinite wisdom sin is allowed to be played out so that the character of God will be seen and that all the warning before was warranted.

Sin will never again rare its ugly head because God will not allow it again and we wont either because we see what it causes.

Even God had to pay for sin by the death of His only son, which was no ordinary death - no man or woman on earth every had that death - he died for the world everybody who died already died for themself.

2006-08-24 10:03:06 · answer #6 · answered by Damian 5 · 1 0

For me eternal condemnation would be a separation from God, not a 'place' but unconsciousness or oblivion. I also believe that would be my choice i.e. not to accept a forgiving loving God.

2006-08-25 01:13:22 · answer #7 · answered by button 1 · 0 0

"Unconditional" can mean "loves you regardless of what you are" and doesn't necessarily have to mean "loves you regardless of what outrageous and horrible thing you to do".

So - if that were the definition, then, yes. Both are possible.

I, personally, think people overestimate the degree to which God "loves" any of us. Its a nice thing to tell people, especially when it goes along with "no matter what you have intentionally done to hurt someone"; but I, personally, suspect that God doesn't necessarily forgive the unforgivable and doesn't love people once they've done something to destroy any such love.

Anyway, I'm not too sure God does any loving of anybody. Again, nice think to say to six-year-olds in Sunday school.

2006-08-24 10:06:39 · answer #8 · answered by WhiteLilac1 6 · 1 0

You are right. There are conditions. Faith, Repentance,Baptism, Gift of Holy Ghost, and enduring until the end.

Alma 42:13 Therefore, according to justice, the plan of redemption could not be brought about, only on conditions of repentance of men in this probationary state; for except it were for these conditions, mercy could not take effect except it should destroy the work of justice. Now the work of justice could not be destroyed; if so, God would cease to be God.

2006-08-24 10:02:27 · answer #9 · answered by Angel 4 · 1 1

I see where you come from but also consider this God will look at one's heart and if that person's heart is wicked, harmful to others, holds to regret or shame, completely full of hate for everyone and leaves no room for love then that person will go to hell. I know the love of my God and He will look into your heart and see that you wanted to know but the confusion and misunderstandings of the world's teachings can hinder us from knowing the real truth. God knows your intentions and thoughts as long as you love others and God then He will honor that.

2006-08-24 10:11:28 · answer #10 · answered by AlwaysLaughing 3 · 0 0

God loves you. The thing is, He is everything good and cannot live with sin. We sin, therefore we do not deserve to be in heaven with Him. The only way for us to get in there is to be forgiven and we need Jesus for that. Jesus took the blame for all our sins and died as punishment for those sins. Because of His sacrifice, God can forgive us if we believe, confess and repent.
People who make the choice not to believe and accept the free gift Jesus gave us, will go to hell. It is their choice, not God's. God loves everyone!

2006-08-24 10:14:39 · answer #11 · answered by Eme 2 · 0 0

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