Atheist Leadership...what's the track record?

Question

We all read here where atheist constantly are saying that they can't stand Christians impossing their will on the them. Such as abortion, same sex marriage, gay rights etc..right?...is that a fair description? .............okay!

Now...give me an example of nations that were ran by Atheist (Officially) and how the society worked?

DON'T GET OFF SUBJECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Describe the OFFICAL Atheist Governments and how wonderful they were.

Like the Soviet Union, Cuba, China Offically controlled by ATHEIST..how did they do?


Remember don't get off subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just tell us about the atheist Countries and their
tolerance for other beliefs....okay go!

Answer 1

Atheist nations are cursed...

Answer 2

I think it's a worthwhile question.

Corpus brings some meaningful points to the discussion. I don't think, though, that we can so easily separate political belief from "spiritual" belief -- i.e., one's outlook on life, what and who human beings are, who God is, can't help but impact the way we believe justice and what social standards should be enforced.

I think it's important to note that the Founding Fathers were not all representative of today's "Religious Right," but I don't think we should downplay what faith they did possess.

For example, Ben Franklin was a pragmatist at heart... which left him more in the agnostic or atheist camp... but he did not begrudge his peers of God. Jefferson was a Deist and has been well-known for his "editing" of the New Testament where he chopped out the pieces he didn't like -- and yet a Deist still believes in God, and the Declaration of Independence that he helped to construct relies upon the assumption of Divine Providence as the root of the human qualities he believed we were all endowed with at birth.

[An interesting exercise would be to construct the Declaration as it might have been written from an atheist POV and explore how effective/ineffective it might have been. I haven't thought about it yet; maybe someone else has some ideas on it.]

In general, sure, there were agnostics or atheists at the time, but there was also general understanding or embracing of the notion of "God" even by those who didn't care much to identify with the popular doctrines, and this understanding impacted how people viewed government, their duty to others, how they interacted with people, and so forth.

Not believing in God means there's no common foundation by which to derive any specific treatment of human beings. Value is debatable and generally depends more on pragmatic issues ("What does this person's life contribute? And that person's?") than on an inherent assumption of worth.

Religious systems (especially the theocracies) can have their own problems, but at the least, it makes no sense to enoble atheism as the best basis for a political system. Its track record looks no better than the other life philosophies it criticizes... if not worse.

Answer 3

It's called CAUSATION and CORRELATION. In order for your theory to hold water, you'll have to provide evidence that atheism was at the core of causation regarding the problems under those dispensations. I don't think you could, because it was the political dispensation (stalinism, dictatorship), not the spiritual, that created the human tragedies that were Stalinist Russia etc.

Many atheists are capitalists, libertarians, socialists, anarchists and so on, however, in democracies, people are extremely unlikely to vote in an athiests, as studies show that people are more likely to go with a person from a different religion than they are to go with some who professes no belief in God. The result is that you'll have national leaders that stake a claim in religion, whether sincere or not, simply to garner the trust of the voting public, without actually practicing any tenets of that religion.

I'd take a close look at some of your founding fathers, who were outspoken atheists and even anamists, and look at the constitution that they created (which, I might add, relates directly to their atheism, unlike your example)

Answer 4

I am not a believer of any religion, nor would I call myself an Atheist. I believe in the spirit. I believe that there is a "higher power" of some sort... What is so annoying to me, is the fact that most people of religion, and most Atheists, are forever shoving their beliefs down every ones throat!! The "I'm right and you're a moron if you don't think like me" bullshit. Live and let live. You have your "truth"?? Fine. Live life your way and leave everyone else alone. Let's face it. NO ONE will know for sure until they're dead....So, my point is...Shut the **** up!! All of you!!

Answer 5

What is an "atheist government" meant to be?

If you mean governments that are legally independant from religion (splitting of church and state), well, Europe is full of them. France is the first example I can think of, and I really think that France and the French have had one or two good ideas during their history....

You use the word 'atheists' as an insult. MAybe you should just say 'humanists' and get a little more humanistic education.

Just an opinion

Answer 6

These were godless countries that were heavily influenced by social Darwinism, genetic cleansing, survival of the fittest, etc. They murdered people, and for those that were left, they murdered their human spirit creating a hell on earth. That is the track record and can not be anything else, for it you are but a random quirk of nature, then you are expendable for the good of society, as you as dictator, or Politburo see it.

I deeply fear godless societies. However, I also fear religion with political power. It is only when religion is a matter of choice that is respected and honored, and people focus on a personal relationship with their creator, that society has hope. This was the US when we were first founded, but, we have lost a lot of ground since then.

Answer 7

yahoo dictionary definition of atheist:
One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
I think you are creating a political party termed atheist, where atheists are not that.
I do not like christians imposing their will on me, either, but I am not an atheist.
Did you know Ben Franklin was? I also read a book that showed he was devout about building his character, a very spiritual man and leader. I think you have a few misconceptions.

Answer 8

Well there is France for example. It is officially secular.
Very good food, unpleasant people, have trouble from minorities who are faithful Muslims.
education is free, a lot of free or subsidized government services.

Answer 9

Well I don't think that one full government could be full of Athiests, Our country was founded by men who Didn't believe in Christianity and they were still tolerant of Others religions. Ex. Thomas Jefferson-Dec of Indep, Ben Franklin, James Madison, John Adams, George Washington....Just to name a few...Our government itself wasn't Athiest but we still held tolerance for the beliefs of others.

Answer 10

Give me about 20 years..