Intelligent design?

Question

1 simple example: trees on the African plains develop long thorns designed to protect them against herbivores, giraffes at the same time develop sponge-like tongues which allows it to eat thorns without damaging its mouth... now surely intelligent design cannot be an option as the two features cancel each other out, thus would not have been specifically designed this way. The giraffe does eat the tree in the end, so why not design a tree without thorns, and a giraffe with a normal tongue? As I said just 1 example... ???

Answer 1

I agree - this would come about as a result of evolution.

Answer 2

I would say this example points more towards Intelligent Design.

The tree's thorn prevent other animals from destroying it (instead of developing a different thorn for each animal).

The giraffe's tongue serves more than that single purpose (eating the tree).

Evolution would work IF the tree produced more trees with different kinds of thorns, depending on the animals trying to eat it; or, IF the giraffe produced offspring with different types of tongues to use specifically to eat this kind of tree.

Neither is the case. Despite obvious difficulties, the tree still exists & the giraffe still eats it.

Any other examples? That one was pretty good.

Answer 3

Only the Giraffe is adapted to eat the plant, and you see this kind of mutual co-evolution occurring often between animals and the food sources they exploit.

Hummingbirds for example, some are adapted to suck nectar from just one plant and have evolved enormously long almost drinking straw like beaks to get to the nectar right at the bottom of otherwise inaccessible flowers on this one plant, if the plant becomes extinct so too will this particular type of hummingbird unless it finds an alternative food source...that's adaptation & evolution for you..it's not intelligent design.

Answer 4

I'm not sure your example disproves Creationism/ID because it is not a belief-system based upon proof or scientific theory as a scientist would understand the concept. You might as well try to demonstate the non-existence of God to a fervent believer - it can't be done.

Anyway, surely ID is merely a weasal way of describing Creationism without using the big 'C' word? There are some excellent answers on here but it's fairly plain that there are no advocates of ID who are not also advocates of Creationism and vice versa.

I believe in God just as fervently as the next man, but ID/Creationism is little more than witchcraft with knobs on.

Anyone who wants to believe in Creationism, little green men or the Spaghetti Monster is OK by me (live and let live as they don't say in the Middle East): just don't pretend it's science and not merely a belief-system.

Answer 5

This is because God in his infinite wisdom created earth and the universe with balanced from the minute organism to the Cosmo. amoebas eat other cells, herbs and plants are eaten by herbivorous, the same way carnivorous eat the herbivorous and so on. Yes intelligent design and the designer GOD.

Answer 6

Have you ever studied the theories on chaos, complexity and complex adaptive systems? You will know why nature ended up with the best design; although you may still ask what drives the adaptation? For that you will need to learn the science of (I really do not want to discuss this here).

Answer 7

trees trunk are very hard enough to be bored a hole, that they protect themselves from the borers, termites and other birds.
but the woodpeckers rather than other birds, develop hardest beaks that they can bore the trunk and make a home for them in the end. so, why not a tree without a hard trunk and a woodpecker with beaks as like other birds? ..... !!!

Answer 8

It's all for our own delight. We are the shepherds of the earth. Is the giraffe not totally cool? Blasphemer!

Answer 9

Dear friend ,
There are many examples of intelligent designs in our nature, every creature is wonderfull example , even human being . These wonderfull designs in the earth , water , oceans , sky , galaxies, that you could not imagine them or even think in doing with them , we are just immating them . the most highest technology are just immating this examples of design in nature ,

But , I think the most important question , who create them in this intelligent way ? who's the Creator of this miracles creatures ?
who is the power full ? who has this universe ? and all things ?

There is only The God - Allah- .

Answer 10

One word - Nylon.