read the whole thing
IF abortion is WRONG because it takes an INNOCENT life!!!!
HOW CAN YOU be for the DEATH PENALTY??????
http://www.nodeathpenalty.org/newab006/dProtess.html
http://www.ncadp.org/fact_sheet4.html
the death penalty is a fine therory but we are all human we all make mistakes. police make mistakes!!
what is the ratio of innocent life taken on deathrow that would make capital punishment ok??? i hope you say zero
i am not forcing my morals on you. this question is for those who are against abortion because of innocent life but for death penatly because it gets rid of criminals.like i said i am not forcing my morals on you i am forcing your morals on you
2006-08-23 16:24:31 · 24 answers · asked by specal k 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
look at the links it prove my point
2006-08-23 16:33:13 · update #1
how many of you are mentaly handy capped???????!!!!
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MURDERES ON DEATHROW I AM TALKING ABOUT THE INNOCENT ON DEATH ROW
2006-08-23 16:37:52 · update #2
Good one! And you are absolutely right. I've been saying how Pro Life people are totally misnamed. They just are against abortion, which makes them anti-abortionists, and not pro-life. How can one say they are pro life when they don't bat an eye when one of their own kills an abortionist, or girls die trying to abort their own? I've heard some say good! She deserved to die, trying to kill her baby! That's someone calling themselves pro LIFE?
I can tell you right now, these same people that try to lie and say that they care about life, will say that Karr deserves to fry in the electric chair for JonBenet. Just watch. Hypocrites.
I suppose there have never been innocent men on death row. Jesus was innocent, and He was sentenced to die too.
Some people care more about someone else's something that isn't even born, than the people that are already here, living, breathing and walking around. Notice how they didn't say don't kill them? Personally, I think that a person that rapes a child or anyone else, should get raped, by BIG BUBBA down in cell block D, every day of his life while in jail. It might kill him, it might not, but he surely won't be happy.
2006-08-23 16:34:24 · answer #1 · answered by classyjazzcreations 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
I think sometimes conservative view the law as a standard of punishment. You break this law = you suffer this consequence.
Liberals on the other hand see the law as a protection for an individuals rights. The law protects my right to free speech and to peacebly assemble etc..
What both side often miss is what is good for society. Why should the law punish the wrongdoer? To get back at him? No it should be because the form of punishment is somehow good for society. By providing a disincentive to do wrong, the frequency or severity of the crime is decreased. And why should the law protect an individuals rights? If every right of every individual was protected 100%, wouldn't that be a form of anarchy or at least very near to it? The individuals rights are protected because society is made up of individuals. But these individuals also must live and work together. Surely the actions of one person will affect the lives of others. So we all contribute something to society and take something from society. Our laws must balance the rights of one person with the impact to the whole community.
So how do abortion and the death penalty affect society?
Abortion is the killing of an innocent baby. But it is also a judgement that a person can be killed regardless of their known innocence. It is granting the permission to the mother to kill a person based only on the fact that the victim is located in the womb. We can see the cascading effect of this in the embyonic stem cell research debate. We have now determined that another group of people do not deserve the protection of the law. We base this on the idea that they do not meet our subjective and fluctuating standard of worthiness to be called persons.
All the while we know they are innocent. Native Americans were the first to suffer from this idea that some were unworthy to be considered persons, then slaves, now babies. Who is next?
The death penalty on the other hand, deals with 3 kinds of people. There are those who are known to be guilty. These are the ones who do not make any claim of innocence. I see no problem with executing these as they are not innocent. The 2nd group are those who are in fact guilty but claim innocence. Their fate should be no different than that of the first group. They deserve nothing different. The 3rd group are those that are found guilty but are in fact innocent. It is only this group that deserves more protection. It is my opinion that this group will decrease significantly due to the use of DNA testing. Your statistics show this same trend. IMO we need to keep moving in that direction. Perhaps a mandatory review when the case is handled by a public defender would be another logical step. Whether the overall benefit to society outweighs the overall harm to society is debateable. What is clear is that we are not executing people who we as a society know to be innocent.
So as our awareness increases, so does our demand for improved protection for the innocent. This is consistent.
2006-08-23 17:53:23 · answer #2 · answered by unicorn 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If there's one thing I hate it's men talking about abortion and taking an innocent life in the same breath!!!
If the day ever comes and you get pregnant, and you have to decide whether to keep the baby or not, then you can ask that question.
As for the death penalty - it's not a question of yes or no for me, it greatly depends on the crime, and as long as the person sitting on death row is really guilty of his/her crime.
2006-08-23 17:10:12 · answer #3 · answered by gipsy_queen99 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I haven't made my mind up about the death row...
All I can say right now is that it makes me angry to see families of victims cheering or looking at the convicts (suspects, in my opinion) with hatred when I still have doubts in my mind or still haven't seen enough evidence that they committed the crime - does that mean they are ok with the fact that the actual murderers might be walking on your street? Is it ok that the innocent people are taking the blame for it and die for it?
BTW, I like what you said at the end - "i am not forcing my morals on you i am forcing your morals on you"
P.S. - I've been thinking about going back to school, majoring in forensic science. This topic made me really want to go for it.
P.S.S. - AND HE'S NOT REALLY ASKING US ABOUT ABORTION, EITHER!
2006-08-23 16:53:11 · answer #4 · answered by fortuna0820 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Baby Innocent
Death Penalty Guilty
2006-08-23 16:29:53 · answer #5 · answered by snuggels102 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
your not making any sense..How can you compare the 2? an innocent child and a criminal ..ok those guys werent guilty of anything but what about the people who are guilty ..the people like the ones that were guilty of that crime who not only committed the crime but allowed those guys to sit on death row for 18 years knowing that they werent guilty of anything ... there os no comparison between abortion and death row..aborted children never even have the chance to breathe let alone commit a crime worthy of the death penalty ... try a different theory and get back to me ...
2006-08-23 16:36:37 · answer #6 · answered by ptmamas 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It depends on the reason, My opinion on abortions is it's wrong caz it's something takes an innocent life,........ but if it's after a raip case it's fair, caz it's a fault, a crime....... how can a gal face to da world after a raip case, can't do that,...... even if the child born, he has to enter the world as an orphan. so in a case like that abortion is nt wrong.
Death penalty,.........i think there's a risk, caz b4 we giv it we hav 2 confirm abt the fault. otherwise it is also a thing which takes an innocent life, but mostly i think to reduce the number of crimes death penalty shld be there. It's nt wrong.
2006-08-23 16:38:25 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
ever since i was real young i felt that there are people born to be the executioner and there are those who will never commit these acts. judge i cannot, get involved in the hunting of animals, killing of people, before or after they're alive, those are things my makeup has not and does not intend on being involved with. do what you know is right for you and once again remember Gandhi, an eye for an eye will eventually leave the whole world blind...
2006-08-23 16:38:28 · answer #8 · answered by lee f 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
an unborn baby is innocent. the baby did not 'ask' to be conceived. it is, in my opinion, cold blooded murder to take the life of the unborn baby for the mother's convenience.
now before all the lunatics begin screaming--what about the mother's rights? the mother's rights end where the baby's rights begin. it is simply wrong to take the life of the unborn all because the mother couldn't or wouldn't say 'no' to unprotected sex.
rape and incest don't matter, statistically. these two circumstances are always thrown up as an argument for the pro-murder people---but statistically, the number of abortions performed because of rape or incest are insignificant.
now--lets look at convicted murderers and the death penalty. a few years ago we had a trio of young angry black men who happened upon two girls and a young man out for a walk one evening. for "fun", the blacks beat the young man senseless. then they beat the two young girls, raped them and threw them off a bridge into the friggin Mississippi River! they were later caught because they were BRAGGING about it! its taken TEN YEARS of worthless appeals before the three murderers were finally executed. how on God's green earth can you draw a comparison between the animals that did this kind of crime and got what they deserved--the death penalty, and an unborn baby who is about to be killed in her mother's womb?
there is no comparison. you people need to stop listening to all this liberal horseshi$ and listen to your hearts for a change.
2006-08-23 16:48:44 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
There's a difference between an inaccurate conviction and the blatant murder of an unborn baby.
The deaths of those unjustly killed under the law will be held against those who lied to make it happen. The lawyers, the actual perpetrator, etc.,.
The deaths of unborn babies by abortion will be heald against the parents and abortionists and people who voted to legalize it.
Both will be judged more harshly by God than we could possibly accomplish on our own.
2006-08-23 16:34:36 · answer #10 · answered by Privratnik 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋