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I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven.

If the above is true - I would have a problem with being a friend of a follower of Allah when their clerics are telling their followers to kill me.

Question: Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there as well?"

2006-08-23 15:09:49 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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This is a tough one but I think I would have to go with Jesus.

2006-08-23 15:12:07 · answer #1 · answered by Samuel J 3 · 0 3

Your question is a living proof that not only there is a group of Muslims that wants to kill non-Muslims but there are followers of Lord Jesus who also would love to kill ALL Muslims.

Is this why you want to convert to Christianity so I can kill Muslims? So I can stop my sisters and mother to not talk and preach in the church?

You give me one verse from Quran about killing the non-believer and I will give you 2 from the Bible and we'll stop when one of us runs out the verses from Quran or Bible.

Now about the "most imams and clerics".
There are about 7 fataws that are in favor of the terrorist acts and 2000, yes I said 2000 are against those acts. What most imams and clerics you are talking about?

What is it that Jesus did or say and Muslims don't do? There isn't a single verse in Bible where Jesus says "I am God" or "Worship Me"

Open challenge to any true follower of Christ to find me one thing that Jesus did to please God (The Father) within the 4 Gospels and Muslims do not do.
Ironically, Jesus, according to Church (not Gospels) dies and ALL the Laws that were sent by the God went "poof!"

Is this the reason why Jesus was keep repeating the commandments and saying "Don't think I have come to destroy the Law but to fulfill"
But wait, there is a guy name Paul who "thinks" he saw something that could be Jesus or God or Holy Ghosts comes along and says "You know what Jesus did and said in past? Well it's all void since he is dead, so what the hell ever you want"

Trust me, you need a way much better argument than just saying "Allah wants to kill people and Jesus died for your sins" If the God you is think loving, why in the world would he kill his son to save others? Talk about Allah killing innocents? How could one say that to a Muslim with a straight face?

2006-08-23 15:59:20 · answer #2 · answered by Mesum 4 · 1 1

Well I'm a practising Muslim. And I want to know from where did you get the idea that "most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven"
How did you hear of that while we Muslism didn't hear that yet?!!
Please note that the declare of Jihad can be only done by group of scholars who are calle "Ahl Al Hil Wal Iqd" . A Muslim can only go for Jihad if this qualified people have asked for otherwise no body else have the right to call for Jihad in Name of Allah. so isn't it strange that you have heard this call while we Muslims never heard of this?!!... I think you should check out your sources.
Another point is that if any call was ever made by "Ahl Al Hil Wal Iqd" then why would a large Muslim Ummah rely on a few fighters? Don't you think that the whole muslim world will form an army and attack you?? please have some commone sense. OBL or Ayman Dhawahiri are not our leaders and they do not have the right to call for Jihad, it is coming to light that OSB was trained and brought up by CIA, and Ayman dhawahiri is calling for Jihad but nobody pays attention. May be he is planted by enemies of Islam to raise a war between Muslims and others. They have frogottent that there are clear verses from Quran which porhibit the Muslims from killing others just because he is not a Muslim.
"Say: "Come, I will rehearse what Allah hath (really) prohibited you from": Join not anything as equal with Him; be good to your parents; kill not your children on a plea of want;- We provide sustenance for you and for them;- come not nigh to shameful deeds. Whether open or secret; take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom. " Al -Anam 151

But the Quran does give the right to defend your self and fight those who fights in you in the battle feild not the innocent ones. Heaven has been promise to those who die in defending the name of Allah, but not those who go and kill others just for no reason.
"And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah. "They are dead." Nay, they are living, though ye perceive (it) not. " chapter 2 verse 154

"Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to Allah. for Allah hath all knowledge and all wisdom. " Al-Nisa 92

"O ye who believe! When ye go abroad in the cause of Allah, investigate carefully, and say not to any one who offers you a salutation: "Thou art none of a believer!" Coveting the perishable goods of this life: with Allah are profits and spoils abundant. Even thus were ye yourselves before, till Allah conferred on you His favours: Therefore carefully investigate. For Allah is well aware of all that ye do. " Al-Nisa 94

so my dear, you can be still be friend with your Muslims brothers and remember that Islam has been always attacked and it will be until the day of Judgment so you will see many who tries to keep you away from the light of Islam and seperate you from Muslims.

2006-08-23 18:04:36 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

prophet muhammed-pbuh has said, 'the most holiest war of all is that for the conquest of the self. '

so the answer, if u will be harmed in any way by my presence or freindship, then i rather not be a back-stabbing freind. if u are honest and good human, then Allah asks me to support and protect u. the proof - the quran.

Aal-e-Imran | 200 verses | The family of Imran
159 It was by the mercy of Allah that thou wast lenient with them (O Muhammad), for if thou hadst been stern and fierce of heart they would have dispersed from round about thee. So pardon them and ask forgiveness for them and consult with them upon the conduct of affairs. And when thou art resolved, then put thy trust in Allah. Lo! Allah loveth those who put their trust (in Him).

Al-Qasas | 88 verses | The Story
77 But seek the abode of the Hereafter in that which Allah hath given thee and neglect not thy portion of the world, and be thou kind even as Allah hath been kind to thee, and seek not corruption in the earth; lo! Allah loveth not corrupters,

i would rather not be ur freind in first place if u will be harmed in any way becoz of me. i dont want my freind to be hurt and the reason being me. i beleive in live and let live. u live ur life and i live mine.

as far as mullahs are concerned, there is no word that is more powerful than the WORD OF GOD, and ALLAH does not ask me to kill u for any unnnecesary reason. so i have never accepted the word of any man in my life and will not accept if such people are giving a wrong fatwa. i beleive in following only THE WORD OF ALLAH rather an any cleric. for me Allah comes first.

now as far as heaven is concerned, we will be in Heaven only if we do good deeds to our community. no sinner will step or have a look at Heavens. if i have made a mistake then only i have to and only i can pay the price for my sins and it applies to the entire mankind.

2006-08-23 15:30:03 · answer #4 · answered by marissa 5 · 2 0

at first its not allowed in islam to kill non-muslims as they dont wanna to have awar with muslims the answer from the qur`an is8. Allah forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your
homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo ! Allah loveth the just dealers.
9. Allah forbiddeth you only those who warred against you on account of religion and have driven you out from your
homes and helped to drive you out, that ye make friends of them. Whosoever maketh friends of them (All) such are
wrong doers.

2006-08-23 15:49:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Not a Muslim but I am a Christian who has taken the time to read the Quran.

We have two seperate forces at work. The God of the Bible who loves the Jews and Israel and Allah, the Muslim moon-god who hates the Jew and Israel and wishes to kill every single one.

Muhammad taught war while Jesus instructed His followers to even do good to those that hate us.

I choose Jesus.

2006-08-23 15:13:53 · answer #6 · answered by Mike A 6 · 0 4

Lets see the love you bozos have for each other. The first bozo claims he is the chosen one, coz his god has promised him the promised land. The second bozo claims that all religions except his are corrupt because his god said so. The third bozo garrisons god and says the only way to him is thru the "son". Fight on, fellas. Don;t spare the sword, guns, bombs, anything. The world will be a better place with lesser of your kind!

2006-08-23 15:12:57 · answer #7 · answered by noitall 5 · 1 3

No. Dont be foolish. I ADVISE YOU TO CONVERT TO JUDAISM AND FOLLOW THE PRACTISE OF THE JEWS AND I PROMISE YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER LIFE.

Dont Follow the muslim, They willing to die for their religion which is absurd. Its is true that they will sacrifice their lives on the battle field rather than see Islam perish and crumble at the hands of those who opposes Islam by force and violence. This is a fact. They called them the infidel. People who want to see Islam perish. This is what they term as Jihad. I called Jihad, a stupidity at its best.

Why will you want to sacrifice your live so that your religion can exist for your young generations?

We should practise non-violence and let nature takes control of everything. If our religion is under threat, we should not defend and resist the forces of evil that opposes us, but instead we should take our time and be in peace with ourselves and god. If our religion is to be perished then so it shall be.

Destiny should take control, we must not interfere with course of nature. We can always make a new religion of our own complex mind and thinking. Its better this way as the world is always evolving so should our faith and belief too.

One day we may find someone new to praise after Jesus. Why cant we? Why shouldnt we have a new messiah? We should not restrict our thoughts and should let it evolve. Dont follow the muslim strict way of life or you will always end up having the messiah as your prophet not your lord.

See what muslim have done? Moses, Jesus, Muhammad are just a mere prophet to them never once been called their lord and saviour. They never once able to accept or praise them as their God and saviour. This is what saddens me, they are refusing to evolve in their faith and belief. They will be forever confined to that state of shrewd mindset and thinking.

The only God to them is Allah, which if you ask any of them, they will tell you its God in arabic and its an Almighty supreme that controls the whole of the universe and everything.

But what can we see is what we should believe. We saw Jesus we shall believe, him as our lord and saviour. Seeing is Believing. Not seeing but having just faith and belief in something that may or not exist is a delusional and wacko state of mind.

Question: Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there as well?"

Answer: After saying all that, i have gone deeper to explain to you the answer to the question and that we should not even allow Islam to exist in this world.

Follow judaism and you will have a peaceful life i promise.

Source:

A jew living in the beautiful land of Israel.

PS: Looks at the thumbs down i gotten, the more i got means Im right and Im bringing you closer to Heaven. The Muslim finds the Truth hurt doesnt it?

2006-08-23 15:11:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 5

my Allah NEVER told me to kill you or any innocent human or animal for that matter!!
so i see no reason for answering your question.

please try to learn about Islam from Islamic sources not fabricated sites.

the entire statement you said is untrue!! and i'm not just saying this to hide or lie.
if it was true i would say it is true and i would have NO problem saying it.
peace.

2006-08-23 15:24:32 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I'm agnostic but I just can't understand people following a religion that actually tells you to kill. That just makes no sense to me at all.

2006-08-23 15:17:58 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Pastors who spread the Islam moon god lie will have a special place in hell. Moslems worship the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. Moslems and Hebrews are cousins. They have the same father - Abraham.

2006-08-23 15:16:16 · answer #11 · answered by Kirk M 4 · 2 3

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