America is the country of European Immigrants. Why is that so hard for the liberals to understand?

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Skater Whore: Americans committed genocide on the Native Indians. I guess it would be too politically correct to poison the salsa of all of these new, unwanted immigrants (they are only wanted by cheap laborers who don't want to pay a decent way or benefits)

I may not be too smart, but if Republicans for against immigration, doestn' that mean Democrats are? Arent most Democrats these days liberal? If you are a moderate democrat these days, you have to become an independent - ask Joe Lieberman.

Answer 1

And none of my ancestors were illegals. How hard is it to understand that we have no problems with LEGAL immigrants, thus no hypocrisy. We have issues with ILLEGALS who are coming into the USA unwanted. The founders of this country weren't ILLEGAL because the natives didn't have laws.

Answer 2

You are so wrong! We have immigrants from all over the world in this Country. We love diversity. However, immigrants should come expecting an opportunity to make something of themselves. A chance to work hard and earn a living. Perhaps a new life if they do it the right way. Immigration must be legal immigration so we know who is coming in and that they don't have AIDS or a criminal history. We were all immigrants once and not only from Europe.

Answer 3

Isn't hard to understand..but here let me try to break this down for you:

Only American Indians have the right to criticize immigration policy
The idea that only "Native American" have the right to oppose immigration to the United States ignores the concept of "nation." There was no such thing as the political entity known as the the United States until the Founders created it in 1776.

Furthermore, there are not grades of citizenship. One is either a citizen of this country, or one is not. We are not more or less citizens of the United States based on the number of generations preceding us on these shores.

And, particularly, we are not more or less citizens of this country based on our skin color or ethnicity.

Since everyone in the world has ancestors who immigrated from somewhere else, the immigration history of one's ancestors is probably not relevant to the formulation of wise public policy.

this is a nation of immigrants
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Our response:

3If you are discussing immigration with a friend, you are likely to hear him reflexively blurt out the gem: "this is a nation of immigrants." When he does, simply point out to him that eighty-five percent of the residents of the United States were born here.

How could that preponderance of homegrown Americans justify us being called a "nation of immigrants"?

Certainly we are descendants of immigrants (as is everyone in the world), but that is not the same thing as being an immigrant.

Anyway, such a statement is no justification for continued mass immigration. The inference that "We are a nation of immigrants and, therefore, we must not limit immigration" is a classic example of circular argument.

What is says is this: Because we are a nation of immigrants, we have to allow for massive immigration which, in turn, makes us a nation of immigrants. Hence its circularity.

Circular arguments are invalid in the logical sense by virtue of how they are structured and not what do they mean. They lead to faulty (and, therefore, useless) reasoning in which the thesis (the very thing which is to be proved) is used as a premise in its proof.

And circular arguments certainly do not form a good basis on which to formulate sound public policy.
and for something just incase....................

reductionists are racists --->

Yes, there are those who hold their views on immigration for racial reasons—on both sides of the issue. (For every David Duke, there is a Congressman Gutierrez.)

This does not mean, however, that immigration is a racial issue.

And while the immigration issue does attract racists, it is our experience at ProjectUSA that most of these racists are to be found amongst our pro-mass immigration opponents—in particular, among the ethnic-identity pressure groups and politicians.

To those (sometimes) well-meaning but confused people who insist that immigration is a racial issue, we always ask: "Well, then, since you are absolutely certain one's position on immigration is all about race, what are your racial reasons for supporting this current flood?"

This question often causes confusion.

We believe that the confusion arises from our nation's unfortunate muddle-headedness on issues of race and culture. The current dogma of the "multicultural" ideology has convinced many Americans that "culture" and "race" are the same things. Just think of the endless paeans to multiculturalism in advertising, political speech, academia, etc.: they are always illustrated by a photo of people of different races.

This is dangerous and wrong.

While a black American and a white American might be different colors, they are equally American, i.e., they share the same culture.

Modern "multiculturalists" are the true racists when they elevate skin color to a place as primary as culture.

If we have racial problems today, how will our problems improve with a half billion people struggling to survive in an overpopulated country? Shouldn't we first resolve the racial problems we have instead of continuing with an immigration policy that will double our population and risk exacerbating an already increasing tendency in our country toward group identity politics?

Those who fear racial conflict or the rise of fascism should support, as we do, an immigration time-out in order to take a breather, reassess what we are doing, and give the assimilation magic time to work.

Answer 4

Why is it so had for you to understand they were not,I repeat not,ILLEGAL ,There were no immigrations laws until the 1930s My family had been here 140 years already. Illegal is the point not immigration .I am a liberal.
And I am a native American,I was born here that makes me and all the rest of us who were born here native Americans,the other crap doesn't hold up under scrutiny
the Indians were immigrants from another Continent having crossed into this country via a land bridge .Get to know your history.

Answer 5

Perfect.the liberals don't understand because the Great White Way has for so long defeated every other race by strong-arming their way through life taking anything and everything other ethnic people, races and cultures have held on to as their own.here's a small thought ,think about the "Alamo" anyway i have a small small problem with the so-called ill-e-gals.they are the same color as me.Where's the issue there Democrats&republicans.......*** shaggin' liberals

Answer 6

What are you talking about? I'm a conservative here. This is not a country of only European immigrants. African, Asian even the native Americans were immigrants. (If you go back far enough) The problem is illegal immigration.

Answer 7

My ancestors were brought over in chains by the Dutch. I am legal because I was born here. My grandmother's people were already here(Cherokee). I guess I'll go live on the border.

Answer 8

I don't think the Liberals have any problem seeing that as true. I don't understand what point you are trying to get across.

Perhaps you meant Republicans? Aren't Republicans the majority who are against immigration (illegal or otherwise)?

Answer 9

It's not true and thus easy to understand that it's you who has difficulty in the realm of understanding or knowing the true extent of your ignorance. Liberals know more areas where you are ignorant than vice versa - that's the essential difference.

Answer 10

gotta love sweeping generalizations.
the native americans did have laws but what did the colonists care? tell the descendents of slaves that came over from our nations inception we're a nation of european immigrants. why are you giving preference to european immigrants over those of your own hemisphere?

the liberals...lol... like everyone of A party speaks with one voice. c'mon, get your head out of the sand or someone will think you are an ostrich and deport you to austrailia.

peace and try thinking instead of blindly trying to shock or seek simple answers. build a wall. sheesh.