I think according to that book the Bible shouldn't atheists also not be allowed to marry.
Should we ban marriage between gays, atheists, while we are at it, since we are basing are legislation on the Bible, Jesus called a Canaanite woman a dog in Matthew 15, and in Rev 22:15 it says dogs don't get into heaven. Should blacks repent of their sin and be saved and go to church as white people before they get married?
Jews too, I think we should base our laws on the Bible and not let gays or jews or blacks or atheists get married.
Can I get a RAmen from the Congregation?
2006-08-23 08:10:33 · 39 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
FYI - this is an attack on the bible, not on jews, blacks, christians, gays, atheists, or canaanites, and no dogs were harmed in this question which is an attempt to show the absurdity of trying to ban gay marriage.
2006-08-23 08:11:46 · update #1
I dont know why everyone wants to ban gay marriage...
If there is a gay couple in California who are getting married how does it effect YOU way over in Illinois, or Iowa, or Kansas, or anywhere else? What does that gay couple have anything to do with you?
Good point. I would give you a raman but I am not part of your Flying Spaghetti Monster congregation, although I am very intrigued about it.
2006-08-23 08:14:39 · answer #1 · answered by m_thurson 5 · 2⤊ 3⤋
I think the whole gay marriage issue is actually an amalgam of two separate issues.
1.) Marriage as a religious/cultural event that entails two people pledging to spend their lives together.
2.) A civil union that allows two people to become an interdependent household. Allowing for things like "family" insurance coverage.
Marriage is something derived from an intersubjective "reality" that we call culture. Often times this includes religious elements. According the the good old Constitution, there should be no laws endorsing a particular religion or preventing free exercise. I would think that this should allow Americans (can't speak for others) to follow the dictates of their religion and make vows as they see fit. If their religion allows for two individuals of the same gender to make these vows the the State needs to stand back and not prevent free exercise. And, the *religious* belief that same sex marriages should not take place should not be endorsed by the State through laws or Constitutional ammendments.
Which leads to the second issue....
Just because a religious group allows for vows to be made, that in no way means that the State must recognize them. If someone wants to "marry" a dog, go ahead, weirdo, but don't expect the state to recognize the union. If someone wants to "marry" a child, if they break any laws in the process they should be prosecuted.
The aforementioned extreme examples aside, I don't know why the State, absent *religious* prohibitions, would not allow long term partners of the same sex to become an interdependent household. I would also suggest that civil unions be extended to other pairings as well, such as an older brother that cares for a younger gravely disabled brother. Elderly women that are long time friends that live together, etc.
These civil unions should not just be based on an ongoing committed *sexual* relationship. People should not be forced to fabricate a sexual component to their relationship just to derive protection by the law.
Oh, and by the way. I'm a christian. I think that Jesus would take the high road of compassion on the issue rather than trying to assert cultural dominance and exclusion using the mechanisms of political power.
2006-08-23 08:39:59 · answer #2 · answered by noncharon 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Television glamorizes homosexuality. Advertisements portray it as totally normal. Fashion promotes androgynous styles, unisex clothing and even perfumes that both men and women wear. Public schools teach that it’s OK. And our government is mandating policies that promote things like tolerance and “gay marriages.”
AIDS remains the fifth leading cause of death among those aged 26 to 44, and 60 percent of new cases are contracted by men who have sex with men.
The body’s natural immune system is broken down by repeated exposure to semen during anal intercourse. Also, the tearing and rupturing which can take place during such intercourse exposes the individual to infection by manifold serious and dangerous diseases.45 percent of all AIDS cases involved men who were exposed to the disease through having sex with other men while 4 percent of the cases were among men who had heterosexual contact.
While most heterosexual women visit the gynecologist every eight to nine months on average, the average for lesbians is every 21 to 24 months.
Why is it so important for some homosexual activists to prove that someone can be born a homosexual?
If the world was convinced that some people are indeed born gay, then some would feel there is a need to protect homosexuals by the government as a designated minority class status, such as African- or Native-Americans. Slowly but surely, it seems the government is embracing this view and granting special rights to the homosexual community for what is a behaviorally based identity rather than a true genetic one.
Even if somewhere in the future a genetic link could be proven, it wouldn’t suddenly make the behavior right or acceptable to society.
Look at alcoholism or tendencies toward anger. While these have been promoted as having a genetic linkage, there are few, if any, in our society who would accept such behaviors just because they are linked genetically.
2006-08-23 09:24:28 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
As far as I can understand, gay people don't have an issue with gettign married in churches or so on, which is what most conservative, Christian people are freaking out about. If people had a little more interest and learned the FULL topic, it has nothing with religion, but equality of spousal benefits, and so it is more a topic for companies that are being tightfisted about paying benefits, and the legality of these issues.
I say as long as it doesn't physivcally hurt anyone, let the people do what they want, behind closed doors, so they dont hurt those conservative feelings. By the way, stragith people arent' doign any better in the fidelity dept. and MANY kids are coming out screwed up by these so called "normal" relationships. I say it's more what's in the persons heart, and stable mind, no matter gay or straight.
2006-08-23 08:16:48 · answer #4 · answered by grldragon101 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
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I dont know why everyone wants to ban gay marriage...
If there is a gay couple in California who are getting married how does it effect YOU way over in Illinois, or Iowa, or Kansas, or anywhere else? What does that gay couple have anything to do with you?
Good point. I would give you a raman but I am not part of your Flying Spaghetti Monster congregation, although I am very intrigued about it.
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How does it affect us? Everyone is screaming that Christians are trying to force their beliefs down the throats of the American public....well, let me tell you....only about 2% of the population is gay...yet the homosexual agenda is forcing the other 98% of us to deal with their lifestyle. I will not stand by and say that homosexuality is just another lifestyle. It is a sin. There is no pulling punches there. If I come face to face with a homosexual person and they ask me what I think about their choice.....I will tell them, "What you are doing is a sin."
Homosexuality goes against everything that God created to be good and beautiful in the world. It is just another form of perversion of what God created as perfect. But I will have you know that I do not hate homosexual people. I don't agree with their lifestyle. I hate their sin but not them...
2006-08-23 08:45:53 · answer #5 · answered by onyxunicorn 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Gay people can get married on their own if they want to.
According to the bible Christians are not to marry unbelievers, because there is too much spiritual discord. So, God does not allow His people to marry athiest. It is perfectly fine with God that people (male & female) of different colors marry if they are both born-again Christians. Christians come from all nations & become a new peculiar nation.
It is written in Proverbs that God blesses the man that finds His woman. Don't expect to get God to bless something that goes against His purpose for you. God will not bless a homosexual union in marriage.
Dogs are suppose to refer to sorcerers, witches, etc. They have rejected the Truth of God, and go to other spirits. I guess this canaanite woman practiced witchcraft & she knew it. She told Jesus that even dogs eat the crumbs from The Masters table. He told Her she had great faith & healed her daughter. But He did not bless Her witchcraft. Instead, She became a woman of faith, because Jesus loved her & healed her daughter. Do you realize that salvation can come from the crumbs from the manna from heaven?
2006-08-23 08:32:44 · answer #6 · answered by t_a_m_i_l 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Perhaps people, we should consider SEPERATING CHURCH AND STATE!!! I cant believe everyone here is talking about religion, when this is a government issue.
You dont believe in homosexual relationships because you are a christian and it goes against your bible?? THEN DONT GET MARRIED TO THE SAME SEX! and leave them alone!
Also, to the person who said that most homosexuals are not monogamous... THEY ARE. Studies have shown that homosexuals have longer relationships than heterosexuals in some cases. Where are you getting your info?
To say that sexual abuse stems from homosexual behaviour is ignorant. Most sex crimes are committed by heterosexual men. Also, most molestation crimes are committed by heterosexuals with an attraction towards children of both sexes.
Also, the T-40 I believe it's called, shows that homosexuality is generic not enviromental. So people ARE born homosexual, not taught.
Hell, Im gay, and my entire family is heterosexual. What does that tell you? Enviromental only qualifies when the child is exposed to molestation, or mental abuse. And molestation does not require a sexuality. Men will sleep with boys and believe themselves to be straight.
2006-08-23 08:40:11 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
ok, i'm a Christian, but lets lay biblical principle aside. evolutionist theory 101: they can't reproduce therefore leading to the end of human civilization(straight evolving theory!) because it is not the "natrual" way of life according to the evolutionists.
secondly, it is not what the "laws of the land" dictate. if they do not want to agree to our laws and do not have the force to get them changed, go to a country that honors their beliefs and get the hell out of america! overwhelmingly, the majority of AMERICANS that are legal citizens do not approve, want to legalize, or want to propagate the homosexual lifestyle.
why do i as a heterosexual male, have to be married to have the same "rights" as the homosexual community is demanding? man/woman living together in'sin' has been around longer than homosexuality in america! yet we do not get the benefits of a live-in partner! and you do not hear us screaming discrimination because we accept the laws of the land! and i could speak of other things here that are just 'normal' trails of the road but this space will not allow me! sorry!
and marriage is an institution set up by the BIBLE, not society! so i guess we need to adhere to the author of the subject and let it be. again, if you do not love america, then leave it!!!
2006-08-23 08:23:24 · answer #8 · answered by ceebee1111 3 · 4⤊ 0⤋
In the bible it says that people should not judge. If people are going to say gay people can not get married because of the bible, than why the heck are they judging people if they're using the bible as a way of stopping people from getting married! I think people who don't support gay marriages have no right to say that. Everyone should live there OWN life the way they want to. And people should certainly not judge others! It's what i think. And yes, i'll give you an AMEN!
2006-08-23 08:16:57 · answer #9 · answered by Hope 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Well this is sort of a loaded question.
Marriage has several definitions, depending on who you ask.
What I think is unfortunate is that a gay marriage does not have the same rights as a "traditional" marriage. Health care, taxes, etc.
2006-08-23 08:24:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋