To create a human being, a sentient intelligent creature, and provide no proof of your existence of a creator, and expect these intelligent human persons, to believe in you, or punish them for their non-belief by throwing their individuality into a lake of fire, making them expirience pain, is that a moral or a just thing to do?
Or is that an immorral unjust sky wizard?
2006-08-23 07:05:33 · 29 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Got any proof that anyone's been tossed into a Lake of Fire?
2006-08-23 07:12:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
It's both moral and just. We will each get what we deserve.
Except there are those who realize it. And they found that there is a provision to keep us from getting what we deserve. It is a Salvation, but it is a straight and narrow way, and not all will find it.
It is the right of the Creator to do what He wants with the things He created. And if He created a thing of free will that has become so awful, that it destroys and causes destruction, that it spoils all things good and works only evil, is it not His good and perfect will to offer it a change of free will, and failing that, to do justice?
To accuse Him of providing no proof is assinine, the proof is every where.
If you won't accept the obvious proof that something created implies there is a creator, that physical manifestations and proofs attested to by many that there is a God, then why should he do anything more? You have not been denied proof, but even in view of it, you have denied Him. It is your choice, and with every choice there is a consequence.
If a good and just society created a system for people and a person breaks the law, is it the failure of the society to control that person, or a failure of the person to obey? Is jail justice?
Your view is riddled with flaws. You want free will, but no consequences. One goes with the other, they are not a separate thing.
With power goes responsibility. With responsibility goes accountability. With accountability goes choice. With choice goes consequence.
Failure to accept the responsibility will not exonerate you.
Judging the Judge will not free you.
2006-08-23 14:32:20 · answer #2 · answered by Just David 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The "lake of fire" mentioned at Revelation 20:13,14 is not to be taken literally. What does verse 14 say is thrown into it? It reads:
"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Is death able to be physically tossed into a lake or burned? Is hell, which is the common graves of mankind, able to be phsically tossed into a lake or burned? No. At Revelation 20:10, it says the Devil is thrown into the lake of fire. The Devil is an invisible spirit creature and cannot be hurt by literal fire. The lake of fire is symbolic just as much of the book of Revelation is. So, what is the "lake of fire"? It means the "second death" or eternal destruction, from which there is no hope of a resurrection. The ones who experience this type of "death" are wicked, unrepentant opposers of God's Kingdom and rulership. Satan the devil truly deserves to be destroyed forever and he will be.
2006-08-23 15:09:09 · answer #3 · answered by Micah 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is for all who have rejected Jesus Christ and who do not accept him as their savior. They will be cast into Hell and Hell will be cast into the Lake of fire.
God gives all people a chance because he is not willing that any should perish. He sent his Son rather than saying all mankind sinned so they are all condemned. Each person has free will and choices and each person either choose to accept Christ or they reject so it isn't God who make the choice but that person themselves.
Hell is a place of pain and agony where people will burn all day and the flame doesn't consume. It is a place of thirst and it is a place where the ones there will know that they are eternally seperated from God. God gives every opportunity by sending the Holy Spirit to convict and by us seeing all of creation and he said there would be no excuse.
2006-08-23 14:16:02 · answer #4 · answered by rltouhe 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What I've wondered since I was a kid, is what about people who grow up in countries that are predominantly of another faith? 90%+ of Christians in the West, if brought up in a Hindu or Muslim country - would be Hindus and Muslims. Seems a little unfair, doesn't it? Why should we have that advantage? Of course a lot will say that they would have chosen Christianity anyway, but that's just because all they know now is having been brought up Christian. But a far trickier one is... What about civilisations that had absolutely no access whatsoever to Christianity? What about the Native Americans, Incas, Mayans, Aboriginal Australians, the folk in the far East?
So aye... Completely unjust. But perhaps everybody has got the whole message wrong, because it's always been interpreted for them by rich, powerful white guys who have their own interests at heart... Who knows..?
2006-08-23 14:06:43 · answer #5 · answered by 8Dave 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
you know what someone explained to me...
that hell might not be a burning lake of fire, but eternal seperation from God. Which makes sense, because if you dont know him on earth, why want to be with Him in eternity.
However saying that God has given no proof of His existance is false. There has been all sorts of proof which is documented both in the Bible and in other sources.
2006-08-23 14:10:48 · answer #6 · answered by kari 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Can't really answer that...is it moral to pay taxes because a majority of the citizens say it is....I think that it is an oppressive government and the liberal as$h01es stealing my hard earned money.....
but they get to tell me whats what.....
"IF" as some say that God exists and he is the one true and only.....Then I believe; even by the standards we humans set, that my intelligence,or opinion doesn't really matter.
And "IF" as you say that he is not but an immoral sky wizard, who wants to watch you writhe in a lake of fire....and you are powerless to influence him... except by being obedient and faithful to his purpose.
Then it doesn't matter one IOTA...now does it??????
2006-08-23 14:21:10 · answer #7 · answered by tincre 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God did provide evidence of His existence, the numerous times He interacted with ppl and the record of those interactions, the Bible. Besides, it's pointed out in Romans 1:20 that no one is without excuse. I think that God may judge us based on our exposure to Him and whether we accepted that or not.
On ppl going to hell for rejecting God, that's like complaining about an F for not doing homework. "Why are you giving me an F for exercising free will!? I just made a choice, it's not my fault you gave it to me!" See how the argument fails? There are consequences for our choices, so follow God and get to heaven, or don't, but by doing so you're deciding to go to hell.
2006-08-23 14:12:43 · answer #8 · answered by STEPHEN J 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No I don't believe it to be moral or just. I have a problem with any deity that uses pain, misery and fear as a 'tool' to make one toe the line or teach a lesson.
2006-08-23 15:14:38 · answer #9 · answered by genaddt 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No worries, there is no lake of fire. There is no proof of it either... except of course what is said in the Bible, and we all know how accurate and true those "stories" are.
2006-08-23 14:25:37 · answer #10 · answered by Eve 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋