Jack Johnson vs. Muhammad Ali who wins?

Question

Yes, in their prime.

Answer 1

Brent F ~
In my opinion, hands down in their prime Ali, although I think that Jack hit the harder of the two. I'm really not and wasn't a big fan of Ali but you have to him his credit for being fluid in motion. Jack was too methodical almost robot like, he fought in a era when you were suppose to stand there and go punch for punch and not really have any ring generalship. Ali owned the ring when he fought, I think that and the fact he would hold Jack would frustrate him. Although clinching is a technique used by many fighters today in the rules it's called "holding" and against the rules. Ali was just too well rounded for Jack.

Answer 2

Believe it or not, Jack Johnson could have possible beaten the great Muhammad Ali. Johnson was a very clever defensive fighter with a hard punch. Ali is the fastest of all time and would outpoint Jack Johnson in a very strategic boxing match of two all time greats. Great question Brent F!

Answer 3

That's a question no one will ever know the answer too.

Jack Johnson's style was totally different fro Muhammad Ali's. You are talking about two different boxing eras, styles, regulations, and racial acceptance.

From all the old films, readings I know of about Jack Johnson, he was a fast slugger who could take a hit. Whereas Muhammad Ali was/is a smart boxer. He would change his style with his opponent.

If there could be a fight, I would give it to Muhammad Ali. I think he would pick Jack Johnson apart piece by piece, round by round, avoiding a slug feast. I do not think he would attempt a rope-a-dope situation as in his later years. That's why he stays so pretty. :)

Answer 4

I am going to say that Ali wins 8 out of 10. The two losses are because Jack Johnson used the "I'm hungry Mike Tyson-style" to win. He would swing so much and so hard, that a few of them are bound to land, especially since he TOO was a smart fighter. Ali LOST some fights as well, keep that in mind. :)

Answer 5

i might could say Ali for this one. varieties make fights, and at the same time as Johnson's protecting type replaced into super for his era, he did no longer pass very plenty and this, greater beneficial than something, may be his downfall. Johnson might have no selection yet to chase Ali all combat long, at the same time as ingesting limitless jabs and suited hands on social gathering. Johnson fought flat footed, resembling ways one in each and every of Ali's fighters, Cleveland Williams, fought. And, the combat might pass exceedingly plenty a similar way. Johnson eats up shot after shot until eventually he the two retires in his nook or gets knocked out interior the previous due rounds. slightly a mismatch if i will say so.

Answer 6

Since no one who is reading this ever saw Johnson ( except on scratchy film excerpts) we are all blowing smoke. Nat Fleischer, who probably did see Johnson ( and was the catalyst for Ali's one round knockout of Liston in Lewiston Maine) , called Johnson the greatest of all time, but the only objective fact to go on is that Johnson fought 20+ round fights ( and trained for 40 plus round fights) and Ali was near death after 14 with Frazier in Manila. Btw, Peter Jackson went to a 61 round draw ( actually a no contest) with Jim Corbett in 1898. How do you compare these things?

Answer 7

Depends on the rules in place. If according to rules in Ali era maybe Ali by decision unless his showboating pissed Johnson off;if rules of Johnson's era were observed Johnson would stop Ali in 20-30 rounds or toy with him until Ali fell from exhaustion.

Answer 8

To John W - I want what you have been smoking.
To Toughguy - Brent tells me to go easy (on you). Just when I think I can respect your opinions, you come up with a assine statement that Black Jack could beat Ali. Your conservative horns are showing. I guess you also think that George Allen would be a good ambassador to India or any country in Northern Africa.

Johnson - W 93 (KO's 52) TF 127 - W pct 73% - KO pct 41% - wins over T. Hart and Jeffries - KO'ed by J. Williard
Fought past 50 yrs old (ridiculous)
He was decades ahead of his time with his skill and speed.

Ali - W 56 (KO's 35) TF 61 - W pct 92% - KO pct 57% - wins over Ellis, Norton, Bonavena and Chuvalo - KO'ed by Holmes (he was 40 yrs old) - #3 ranked fighter
Greatest chin/will/heart, even greater than Marciano. Too bad he did not follow Rocky's example and stay retired.
Won Gold Medal in 1960 at Lt hwy wt

In this fight we have Ali winning the bout in a 15 rd unanimous decision.

P.S. We can fulfill toughguy's scenario with an over fifty Johnson that could possibly beat an over forty Ali. Please laugh.

Answer 9

I say Ali would start out winning but then Johnson would study what he was doing and make a come back in about the fifth round and KO Ali in about the middle of the sixth.I say Johnson.

Answer 10

Assuming that Ali's focus was right (which it usually was for his top tier opponents) I second the opinion that Ali would win 8 of 10. Of course it's "apples and oranges" since boxing as a sport and the associated factors like conditioning and training evolved so much over the course of the 20th century to make comparison very difficult. With the possible exception of Joe Louis, Ali was the best heavyweight fighter in history (I personally rank Ali #1, but Louis is certainly in the discussion for best ever) and as such he'd be able to beat Johnson. Johnson's power and aggressive style could have potentially posed problems for Ali, but it not like he didn't fight and beat aggressive, heavy hitting fighters in his career like Frazier, Foreman and perhaps the hardest puncher in the history of the sport, Earnie Shavers. Johnson would have the proverbial "puncher's chance" but were I to bet on the fight my money would be on Ali.