I think Christians are ok, and have many christian friends. I am cool with ya being christian, and I am for freedom. That is also why I have a problem with you guys. I am fine with Christians till they try to get their beliefs turned to law. I am fine till beliefs are imposed on me. When religion effects law, and is thrown at me, I fight back. This is the problem some atheists have, but not all. I can only speak on my behalf. I like you guys, just respect, or tolerate me.
2006-08-22
13:40:47
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eaglemyrick
How about gays getting married, abortion, the fact that atheists can not hold office in 4 states. You only want to point out the good in religion. Don't kid yourself.
2006-08-22
13:44:42 ·
update #1
vashsunglasses
You have rights, till they effect mine. Religion can not be in the government less all religions are. If not that is state established religion. Because religions don't agree, you can not have them all, and can't have only some. That is separation of church and state in a nutshell.
2006-08-22
13:48:20 ·
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jannus-x my friend, you just claimed to have the right to rule my life, and that is not ok.
2006-08-22
13:52:25 ·
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idaho gal
If 99% of america is white, and want all the blacks killed, that does not make it ok. The laws are not what majority want, but what helps mose people overall. Laws against killing are fine. Laws banning atheism are not. Laws are took keep order and to be limited as possible. They are to only control things like killing. When it comes to everyday aspects like who can get married, that is the RIGHT OF THE INDIVIDUAL, no matter how small.
2006-08-22
14:10:44 ·
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idaho gal
You seen to think the majority can do what it wants. WRONG. As I said, when it comes to gay marraige, that is THE RIGHT OF THE INDIVIDUAL. That is why law is kept minimal in a democracy. Your just not getting it. Allowing the laws to be influenced by religion is giving that religion special treatment. You can go on if you want. but that does not make america a theocracy no matter how much you want it.
2006-08-22
14:24:53 ·
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vashsunglasses
You want no abortion, I want the choice. I want you to have the choicce. If you don't want one, don't get one. Let me if I do. If you have your way, you will ake away my rights. This is why the basic aspects of the live of an individaul are left to them. NICE TRY.
2006-08-23
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How about changing our money from saying"In God We Trust" to "I Earned This To Pay A Bill"
How about changing the Pledge of Allegiance from "One Nation Under God" to " One Nation Under Tolerance"
How about taking down the 10 commandments in government buildings and putting up the Constitution of The United States Of America. Ya remember the thing our forefathers fought for! You can keep you nativity scenes... but outta public land. You can keep your crosses in your cemetery... but on your plot.. not mine!
Happy to be agnostic!
2006-08-22 13:52:34
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answered by munkeybusines 2
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how people vote and believe is based on what they believe. You vote based on your beliefs and needs. If you are christian you have a set of beliefs that make you who you are. If you are Muslim you have a set of beliefs that make you who you are. If you are Atheist you have a set of beliefs that make you who you are. The laws that we want in our communities and nation reflect what we believe. If you are atheist you think that evolution should be taught only in school. If you are christian you don't believe in evolution to that same degree as an atheist does and what what you believe to be taught. The idea of a democracy is that what the majority believe/want is what the laws reflect. But the US is also a republic that also includes that try for no one is to be discriminated against because of what they believe, but that does not mean everything goes. It is a balancing act between the majority and the individual So how this works is be make compromises. Some laws may not reflect what you believe but what the majority believe. But at the same time you have the right to try to change the law. So they may not be trying to force you to believe what they do but their beliefs do reflect what they want for their nation/community. It is part of who each of us are. Anyone can hold office in the us regardless of their beliefs. (no state is allowed to deny you the right to hold an office based on your beliefs. That is against the constitution. If you claim one does give the state and the law). Now you may not get voited into office because the majority does not agree with you but that is how politics work.
The seperation of church and state means that the state (goverment) can not hold any one religion above the law or give any one religion preferencial treatment. But it does mean that a group of people who believe in any one religion does have the right to petition the goverment to make laws based on their beliefs. And you have to right to petition the goverment to make laws based on your beliefs. As for abortion or gay marriage I think they are wrong, you think they are right. So we both petition the goverment based on what we believe and what we want for laws. Once it is law does not mean I can not keep petitioning the goverment if I disagree with the law that was set, but I do have an obligation to uphold that law.
Our founding fathers gave us a guide on how to set these laws on a wonderful document called the constitution. This give you the right to life, liberty, and ther PURSUIT of Happiness (no guarentee). They also had the forsight to give us checks and balances (the Supreme Court).
2006-08-22 14:04:03
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answered by idaho gal 4
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I also have a problem with having laws based on Christian beliefs but that is why we have democracy so we can fight for our own laws. No law is passed without the approval of a majority of legislators and politicians base their votes on the votes of their constituents. If you want to avoid laws that you don't like, get politically involved. It's not a surefire solution but you will always get outvoted if you don't make your views known and gather support.
2006-08-22 13:46:28
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answered by Kuji 7
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Well, I hate when Atheists try to get their beliefs made into laws, so I guess we're even, huh? I mean, when Atheists are trying to get crosses taken out of cemetaries, and make it illegal to put a nativity scene in front of a church, that stuff really bugs me.
The thing that bugs me more than anythng though, is when Atheists tell me that I have no right to affect the government or laws anymore, just because I happen to be a Christian. That is an infringment on my rights, and I will not allow some Atheist to take that away from me.
2006-08-22 13:45:12
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answered by Dysthymia 6
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GALATIANS 3:10 "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."
11 Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith."
12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them."
13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."
14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
2006-08-22 13:46:17
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answered by Shot At Sight 3
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What laws are you specifically talking about? It is silly to say Christians want to get their laws past, murder was a law in the bible do you like that law? Maybe we should get that one pulled for you also. I think you are just one of those people who want to whine about something. boring
2006-08-22 13:50:43
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answered by malisimo 3
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We both have answers to moral questions.....
Should the state sanctify gay marriage?
Should we allow killing of unborn children?
Our faith drives us to answer moral questions just as your lack of faith drives you to answer them. It is not a matter of imposing religion on people, but basic morality should be adhered to and we have a right to make our case as you do. May the most moral group prevail!
2006-08-22 13:46:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Christians are held responsible for their fellow Christians and atheist or non believer...it is our responsibility to lead lost sheep to the flock...that is the purpose for being Christians, praying or going to church is not the only purpose of being a christian..if we don not do that, on judgment day it will be weighed upon us the reason why one soul such as yours is not saved.....pardon for my brothers & sis if ever they bother you...they believe they are helping you.
2006-08-22 13:48:33
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answered by Urban Hermit 4
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Christian Boy,
Cool.
What? Why are you looking at me that way?
Say something? What?
Ohhhh . . . um, sorry about the law thing. I guess we all have a vote, and they say votes count!
Hey, um . . . Panic! ATD is pretty cool, huh?
2006-08-22 13:46:06
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answered by Anonymous
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I think even Christ would agree with your statement. He want's you to choose him on your own accord--that's why he gave us a freewill.
2006-08-22 13:59:59
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answered by makingthisup 5
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