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Have anyone read Waiting for Godot? If not, Beckett makes an allusion to two theives in John where one is saved and the other is damned, but he doesn't say why? Does anyone know?

2006-08-22 09:22:34 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I suppose I better add some details for the curious... On page 9 in my book, Didi talks about the two thieves, crucified with the savior, yes? Didi says one is saved. Saved from what? Gogo asked. Hell-Didi replies. I'm going-gogo says. Does he admit he's going to hell? He doesn't move... Just wanted to know what it meant. Thanks for the help.

2006-08-22 10:48:38 · update #1

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One of the thieves on the cross turned to Jesus and said "Lord remember me when you come into your kingdom". Jesus replied to him, "surely this day, you shall be with me in paradise". They started out, both the thieves, mocking Jesus. At one point, the thief who asked forgiveness stopped, and even went so far as to rebuke the other thief for doing so. This is why he was saved...he turned to Jesus. The other one did not and died mocking Him.

2006-08-22 09:30:41 · answer #1 · answered by christian_lady_2001 5 · 1 0

When Jesus was on the Cross there were 2 other guys.

One believed in Christ and one didn't.

Jesus told the one who believed, "today you will be in paradise w/ me"

But I must remind you, no one that dies is damned. There is no hell. It is an illusion made by man. Rather we all go to Sheol a place where the believers and non-believers wait, seperately, until the end days. Everyone is allowed to make the decision again, whether they believe in God again. Hopefully, after waiting hundreds of years, the non-believers will finally believe.

This is all biblical... look it up. If you need help, let me know.

2006-08-22 09:35:52 · answer #2 · answered by the nothing 4 · 1 0

Wow looks like no one know what they're talking about.

Here's the account in LUKE not John:
39One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: "Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!"

40But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? 41We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."

42Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[f]"

43Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."

They where criminals not thieves.
Jesus said you will be with me in Paradise which is the temporary place that is before Heaven or Hell. It's so obvious in scripture that no one has even gone to Heaven or Hell yet. It clearly states that paradise is where people go to "sleep" or "wait" for judgment day. That's why it so bloody ridiculous for anyone to be squabbling about who's going to hell and who isn't. "Don't you fear God?" This is the point.

2006-08-22 09:41:49 · answer #3 · answered by The Guy 3 · 2 0

Sad, that almost nobody actually read your question. I read Waiting for Godot in Hungarian over five years ago and didn't really get that. I just bought the originaly english version and finished my last book anyway.... I'll let you know if I see any relation, you got me curious.
GBY

2006-08-22 10:06:31 · answer #4 · answered by Csaba 2 · 0 0

According to the bible, the repented his sins while on the cross next to Jesus, and because he was truly sorry, his soul was saved. The other thief only mocked Jesus as the crowd did and therefor he was not saved.

2006-08-22 09:29:37 · answer #5 · answered by mea_v4 2 · 1 0

Are you talking about the two thieves who were crucified with Jesus? If so, one accepted Christ, the other didn't, hence Jesus told the saved one he'd be with Him in heaven.

2006-08-22 09:29:36 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It's because when they were on the cross beside Jesus one of the thieves said he wanted to go to heaven with him and the other one said he didn't believe.

2006-08-22 09:28:50 · answer #7 · answered by ctryhnny04 4 · 1 0

Doesn't mater, Godot never shows up right?

Interesting- I hadn't considered that!!

Perhaps Beckett plaguarized the bible and put a new twist on it?

2006-08-22 09:30:19 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Because when they were hanging on the cross one ask for Christ to remember him when he came to his paradise, this was his way of accepting Christ, the other did not. Jesus said all who come to me and are heavy laden I will give you rest. God Bless You.

2006-08-22 09:32:42 · answer #9 · answered by Blessed 3 · 1 0

4. THE THIEF ON THE CROSS

187:4.1 One of the brigands railed at Jesus, saying, "If you are the Son of God, why do you not save yourself and us?" But when he had reproached Jesus, the other thief, who had many times heard the Master teach, said: "Do you have no fear even of God? Do you not see that we are suffering justly for our deeds, but that this man suffers unjustly? Better that we should seek forgiveness for our sins and salvation for our souls." When Jesus heard the thief say this, he turned his face toward him and smiled approvingly. When the malefactor saw the face of Jesus turned toward him, he mustered up his courage, fanned the flickering flame of his faith, and said, "Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom." And then Jesus said, "Verily, verily, I say to you today, you shall sometime be with me in Paradise."

187:4.2 The Master had time amidst the pangs of mortal death to listen to the faith confession of the believing brigand. When this thief reached out for salvation, he found deliverance. Many times before this he had been constrained to believe in Jesus, but only in these last hours of consciousness did he turn with a whole heart toward the Master's teaching. When he saw the manner in which Jesus faced death upon the cross, this thief could no longer resist the conviction that this Son of Man was indeed the Son of God.

187:4.3 During this episode of the conversion and reception of the thief into the kingdom by Jesus, the Apostle John was absent, having gone into the city to bring his mother and her friends to the scene of the crucifixion. Luke subsequently heard this story from the converted Roman captain of the guard.

187:4.4 The Apostle John told about the crucifixion as he remembered the event two thirds of a century after its occurrence. The other records were based upon the recital of the Roman centurion on duty who, because of what he saw and heard, subsequently believed in Jesus and entered into the full fellowship of the kingdom of heaven on earth.

187:4.5 This young man, the penitent brigand, had been led into a life of violence and wrongdoing by those who extolled such a career of robbery as an effective patriotic protest against political oppression and social injustice. And this sort of teaching, plus the urge for adventure, led many otherwise well-meaning youths to enlist in these daring expeditions of robbery. This young man had looked upon Barabbas as a hero. Now he saw that he had been mistaken. Here on the cross beside him he saw a really great man, a true hero. Here was a hero who fired his zeal and inspired his highest ideas of moral self-respect and quickened all his ideals of courage, manhood, and bravery. In beholding Jesus, there sprang up in his heart an overwhelming sense of love, loyalty, and genuine greatness.

187:4.6 And if any other person among the jeering crowd had experienced the birth of faith within his soul and had appealed to the mercy of Jesus, he would have been received with the same loving consideration that was displayed toward the believing brigand.

2006-08-22 09:39:31 · answer #10 · answered by Agondonter 3 · 0 1

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