ok...let me get this straight once and for all about how God set things up for us...?

Question

1.He created life and everything in existence.
2.Angels were part of his perfect creations.
3.oops! maybe God wasn't so perfect after all...one angel dared to
challenge him. ok, so God is flawed in creating perfection.
4.As a result of this new battle that now the devil was in competition for our souls....this is a battle God could lose! oh no! God is weaker than the devil!!

5.So now God decides to be a vengeful, jealous God and establishes rules for all his creation....."be good...or else!!". Wow, so now he's also a mean God that would send his creations gone bad to the burning ovens of the universe.

6. he sent his only son to save us from his creations gone bad. an embarrassing God, my oh my.

7. his word, rules and warnings were passed on to only the immediate apostles as another way to save us. We must follow these specific rules, this particular process and only then will you be given eternal life in heaven. If you get it wrong, if you dare make a mistake...

Answer 1

Good job pointing out the glaring inconsitencies in traditional Christian teachings.

Here are some real facts for you:

1. God is perfect Love and Joy. Everything he created is perfect and without flaw. Everything he created is equal to every other thing - there is no hierarchy - All is Divine.

2. God is infinite, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. Everything that exists is God, nothing that exists is not God. That includes atomic particles, elements, rocks, trees, animals, you, me, planets, stars, galaxies, and planes of existence we are not aware of. You are a direct manifestation of God, as is everyone and everything else. All is One.

3. There is no such thing as sin and no such place as hell. Sin, like all moral judgements is a construct of the human mind. What is considered sinful or acceptable changes from time to time and place to place according to changes in society.

4. There are however immutable laws of karma. As you sow, so shall ye reap. Some actions contribute to your spiritual growth, some take away. You may not face eternal damnation for your actions, but you will bring upon yourself consequences with which you must deal.

5. No matter what your path back to the Creator is guaranteed. There is no way to NOT re-unite with the eternal Love of God. Nobody gets left behind, though you may take as long as you wish to learn the lessons of Love. The only ultimate guarantee in the cosmos is infinite Love and indescribable Joy.

Answer 2

You are paying way too much attention to the garbage that churches teach. Satan was created evil, don't believe me then read Isaiah 45:7. This verse shatters everything you stated. It is in knowing Christ as Savior that gives us eternal life, not following rules. Wipe from your mind all religious beliefs and notions and seek God out on your own and you may find the truth. nobody can do it for you nor can anyone show you the way, only God can open your eyes to his truths.

Best wishes.

ps: regarding Diana's comment. No where in the Bible does it say that it is perfect or the truth because it is not. In John 14:6 jesus said " I am the way, the truth, and the life..." Claiming that anything else is perfect or truth is a violation of the first commandment - Thou shalt put no other Gods before me. Far too many christians state that the bible is the perfect word of God yet the bible itself states when talking about Christ ' And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called THE WORD OF GOD." Jesus is the Word of God not the Bible. Silly christians.

Answer 3

There are a number of errors in your synopsis: The Devil is not as powerful as God, and he is not trying to "win souls." Satan is trying to destroy the works of God, that's why he is called the "Destroyer." Neither is God in some sort of contest with him to "win souls."

As for God's "mistake": that's hard to say; I don't have enough information. God created all his sentient creatures with free will. How he came to be corrupted, is unknown. It was, however, not God's will that Lucifer become the evil being that he did.

God gave Lucifer reign over the earth to work out God's design. God gave him that authority, and God can take it away, without any kind of struggle -- in fact, in the end, Satan will be bound by another angel, and God's power will not be necessary for that at all.

In the mean time, God saw an opportunity to execute his plan in shortened time by allowing Satan to sift, so to speak, the weak from the strong.

God is not trying to save us from Satan, he is saving us from ourselves! Our lusts and desires gone amuk lead to unhappiness, but under control, lead to eternal happiness.

You don't like his rules? You like it when people lie to you, steal from you, and even kill you? Is that the world you prefer to live in?

God really has only one rule: love. That eternal love does no wrong to a neighbor, now and forever, but it also has a positive side, and translates into the action "rule," "do unto others, what you would have them do to you."

BTW, your question shows that you did not find that doctrine in the Word of God, the Bible. That is street christianity. It bears no resemblance to the truth revealed in the Bible. Go to the source.

Answer 4

Oops? God Created His angels and Humans with free will. They could Choose to obey him or disobey him. He created them perfect physically and mentally, but they were still allowed to obey or disobey, a perfect person can do either they werent created like robots where they had to obey. It was a Choice. So Satan became Jealous he wanted to be worshiped like God a selfish desire. But only God deserved such worship and power because he created all things. So Satan lied to the Adam and Eve and told them that if they ate the fruit they could rule themselves and fair better without God's rule. So they choose independence. And look where independence from God has gotten us. God is letting time pass to prove that, Without his help we cannot properly rule ourselves as Satan would want us to believe, and that some people will worship him no matter what happens like Job and Jesus and many other Bible characters.

Answer 5

Ok, check this out. There is a female aspect to God. This female aspect thought she could create so she decided to create without the knowledge, so she thought, of the male aspect. In doing so, she created an inferior being. This being is the aspect we call the devil. He, the offspring, thought he was the only male aspect so he decided to create. He created the world and it's beings. Each being had an aspect of the light and the dark. So this is why people are both good and bad. If you want to know more of this read the Gnostic gospels and the Gnostic Book of Hours. IF you realy want to understand this mess we live in it is imparative that you read this.

Answer 6

Yes the devil used to be an angel and he wanted to be like God, but in the end God will win becuase he is so powerful, and plus it says it in the bible and the bible is the TRUTH. and God doesnt make mistakes, he's perfect. oo and he doesnt say be good or else he says if you sin ask for forgiveness and you will be forgiven!

Answer 7

no sense in trying to get it once and for all.....you're not finished arguing your point are you? i didn't think so. if its been that difficult for you to comprehend a very simple concept then i doubt you will ever get it, give it up man, believe what you want and let others believe what they want...you aren't the religion police are you?

Answer 8

OBEY ANGELS!
stop reading written LIES!
Aphrodite!

Answer 9

A rather puerile way to look at the faith. You haven't spent much time in any Christian education, have you?

Answer 10

well I can't say much for your question and for that I think you got some of the facts wrong.
you are really a sad person.