Your view on what God says about once saved always saved? I wanna take you all through some scriptures.?

Question

Give me your view as to what you think God says. The word of God teaches us that to become saved in Romans 10:9-13 all we have to do is belive and confess and we shall be saved. Now once we are saved we have become IN CHRIST. Read Ephesians for all the different times we are IN CHRIST. Not only are we in Christ but we are in the Father's hands as well, John 10:30. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, We are no longer our own for we was bought with a price. I know this scripture talks about your body but it also says ye are not your own. . Salvation belongs to the Lord, Psalms 3:8. We can not earn salvation for it was a gift. Ephesians 2:8-9. John 10:28-29 says no man can pluck us out Christ hands or even the Fathers hands. Ephesians 1:13 is my last verse to read. Once saved always saved doesnt mean we can live like hell and say we are saved, but Christ also knows we are not perfect yet. Look at Peter who denied Christ, and King David who lied about his sin. If you can lose it you never had it.

Answer 1

You can't lose it according to God's word. His actions are not our actions. His words are not ours. The only unforgiveable sin is blasphemey of the Holy Spirit, which is a complete rejection of God.

Answer 2

Let me help you. Believing in Christ is "A" requirement to be saved. Not "THE ONLY" requirement to be saved.

From your writing, you've got many false pretentions that you got from men, not from the word of God. You seem to have already accepted this false doctrine, so if it's comfortable and easy for you, go with THAT, like the millions of others that have and will.

But If you really want to know the truth. The truth that you CAN "fall away" from the truth, that you do have to continue to "RUN" the race, that you can be "carried away" by error, etc.......

You want to know the truth? Do an internet search on the term "Once Saved Always Saved". Then compare what you learn with the Word of God (the bible). And open your heart up to the truth. Throw away your preconceived notions, and really look at the question.

Here's are a couple of links on the subject if it's of help to you.
http://www.bebaptized.org/Oncesaved.htm
http://allanturner.com/dialogue07.html

God Bless you in your walk.

Answer 3

You are picking from some scriptures and interpreting them out of context, while ignoring the vast majority of scriptural evidence that points to what Christ was teaching. Now don't get me wrong, I believe that we can only be saved through Christ. I believe that we are saved by the grace of Christ, after all that we can do. I believe that the atonement of Christ makes just men perfect and able to enter the kingdom of heaven.

But there is alot more to the gospel than the couple of scriptures that you've cherry-picked that seem to be pointing that all we have to do is give lip-service to Jesus and we are "saved".

What about the countless examples of God giving commandments and requiring their obedience? What about all the lessons about sacrifice and good works? What about Jesus teaching that baptism is required to enter heaven? What about James' teachings that "faith without works are dead"? Etc, etc, etc

You have to take the whole gospel or nothing. It's not a buffet where one can pick and choose.

Answer 4

No man can pluck us out of Christ's hands UNLESS WE LET HIM! The Apostle Paul once said that we are ALL "apt to sin", meaning that even Christians can be "plucked" out of God's hands by all sorts of temptations! Jesus told Peter, "Simon, Simon, THE DEVIL DESIRETH TO HAVE YOU THAT HE MAY SIFT YOU AS WHEAT". he meant that just because Peter was now a disciple didn't mean he wouldn't come under spiritual or physical attack from Satan anymore. Look at Job! The Bible described him as a righteous man and look what happend to him! He never gave up faith though, he STILL CAME UNDER ATTACK! Believe me, it's possible to fall back into sin after being saved. If it weren't, then the Scripture that says "Go ye back and do your firstworks over" wouldn't be necessary because after acceptance, we'd all be performing our "works" everyday and no matter what our flesh did, we'd be guaranteed heaven. That's why i don't believe in "once saved, always saved".

Answer 5

With accepting the belief in Christ and being "saved" come an implied responsibility that you will also accept the rest of Jesus' teaching on how to live your life. Being saved is a gift... Yes... but it is also put us into a higher state of responsibility that we will live our lives from then on... it is a contract... or in Jesus' time it was called a "covenant" that we enter. When we address God and ask for salvation... we enter into the fold of Jesus... and that means we take on the rest of what he taught... and live our lives as he instructed. You got the first part right... but you did not follow up on the rest of the contract-covenant. First... we are to accept God the Father as the only God... and to give our adoration to the Heavenly Father... through Jesus Christ... this means that when we pray... we pray to the Heavenly Father and end our prayers with the phrase... "through Jesus Christ, your son and our Lord and Savior." Jesus taught us that we must address the Heavenly Father with our prayers... as he taught in the "Our Father." We do not pray to Jesus... We have faith in Jesus as he is our Savior... and he established the New Covenant by opening the door once again to all men to connect with the Heavenly Father... So... accepting Jesus as our Savior, and believing in Jesus... putting our faith in what he TAUGHT and giving adoration to the Heavenly Father... is one thing... the second part of that covenant... is that we live our lives thereafter we accept this covenant... with the responsibility of apply the teaching of Jesus...by apply the "Greatest Commandment" in our daily life's actions... Check out Matthew's gospel and find the Greatest Commandment... this is what Jesus wants us to apply in our daily lives... If you do this you need NEVER worry about losing your faith... and your status of being saved. Good Luck!

Answer 6

If you are "in Christ" you won't loose your salvation.

But...the Bible is clear that we are to make sure we really are "in Christ" because we can (and do) deceive ourselves.

2 Cor. 13:5 (NKJV)
Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?--unless indeed you are disqualified.

The Bible is also clear that there will be an actual "falling away" of people.

2 Thes. 2:1-4 (NKJV)
Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, [2] not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. [3] Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, [4] who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


Hebrews 6:4-8 (NKJV)
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, [5] and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, [6] if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. [7] For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; [8] but if it bears thorns and briars, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

To me, these verses speak of the unconverted people that we have accepted into our churches. We consider them Christians because they seem to be. They consider themselves Christians because they think they are, yet Christ hasn't penetrated their hearts. They are the tares that grow with the wheat until the end.

Answer 7

What about "Faith without works is dead" (somewhere in the letters...Peter wrote it perhaps?)

Anyhow...one act of saying you believe that Jesus is your saviour does not guarantee your spot in heaven. You must continually show your faith by how you live your life.

We are perpetual sinners and need to show God daily that we require his help. So no...once saved does not mean always saved. Once saved is Step One of a long journey.