Most of these are from the English Standard Version
Satan is the original serpent
Rev 20:2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world--he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
Second half of your second question-----Satan was an angel of importance at that time, until unrighteousness was found in him.
In Ezekiel, he is paralleled to the King of Tyre.
Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, sardius, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, emerald, and carbuncle; and crafted in gold were your settings and your engravings. On the day that you were created they were prepared.
Eze 28:14 You were an anointed guardian cherub. I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God; in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
Eze 28:15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, till unrighteousness was found in you.
Now, back to your statements------Correct, God did not create a talking snake. Satan talked to Eve through the serpent like God talked to Moses through a burning bush.
Since animals cannot talk, Eve knew it was not the actual serpent talking to her. That is one of the little things that made this a serious situation.
Gota go to work, ----I'll try to edit some more scriptures in for you later. There is plenty more. Thanks. . . Hope this helps.
2006-08-22 01:12:57
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answered by rangedog 7
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You're right. There's no scripture to let us know how the snake talked to Adam, or if any other animals and Adam could communicate. So I guess that's how we arrive at the conclusion that the snake is Satan.
That, and Genesis Chapter 3, verse 4 & 5. Who but Satan would've had any reason to be so sneaky and cunning, going against the word of God by saying "...then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
I hate convicting Satan on circumstantial evidence, here, but this IS Heaven and the Garden of Eden we're talking about. I can't imagine who else but Satan would do or say such a thing, and he had the only motive, too. I imagine everybody else in Heaven was content in knowing only good. Only one person had any reason for going around Heaven advertising evil.
If I was on Satan's jury, I'd have no qualms about convicting him beyond any reasonable doubt. I'd surely lose no sleep over it.
Especially since we're all down here because of it, literally covered with Talking Snakes, especially from Washington.
2006-08-22 00:55:15
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answered by Anonymous
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Actually there is a scripture somewhere in Genesis that does state Adam could talk to the animals. Yes God is all knowing doesnt mean he uses it all the time. I can be telekenetic doesnt mean I move things with my mind all day just cuz I can. God didnt Let Satan in to the garden of Eden, Satans's job before he became Satan was to watch over Gods creation. Satan got jealous of the attention God was getting from Adam an Eve. He felt he should get some credit and attention also due to the fact that he is the watcher of all things! SO he proceeded to possess a snake and use it to talk to Eve!
2006-08-22 00:38:22
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answered by david s 4
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I disagree with your conclusion that Satan was not present in the Garden of Eden.
Genesis 3:1-20 refers to a "serpent" in the Garden. You are correct the serpent is not called by a personal name. However, Revelation 12:9a does give the serpent a name; this verse reads: "So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world ... " We know from a careful reading of Genesis 3 that Satan deceived Eve; this deception caused Adam to sin and bring death into the world.
But how do we conclusively ascertain that Satan was in the Garden of Eden? Ezekiel 28:13a reads, "You were in Eden, the garden of God." Note this entity is metaphorically called "the King of Tyre." We know this passage is speaking to us symbolically, because a literal King of Tyre is not mentioned in Genesis 1-3, nor has a human being ever been referred to as a "seal of perfection, perfect in wisdom and perfect in beauty" (v. 11b).
Verse 14 clarifies that this "King of Tyre" was a cherub of the highest order, who had the priviledge to hover over the throne of God (v. 14). Verse 15 tells us this "King" was "perfect" until iniquity was found in him; verse 17a tells us God cast this cherub to the earth because of this defection. It is not possible to ascribe the identity of this cherub to any other angel but Satan.
The fact that the serpent spoke further confirms this is no ordinary snake! Further confirmation that Satan is referred to as a serpent can be found by comparing Isaiah 27:1 with Revelation 13:1; both speak to the same event: the destruction of the serpent, called Satan, by God in End of Days.
I hope this answers your questions. Peace and love in Jesus.
2006-08-22 01:19:04
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answered by Suzanne: YPA 7
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God tempted us with sin so He could have people who followed him by choice, not spiritual robots! Also, a few months ago, CNN had an article which showed the fossils of a very early snake, shown to have had legs. This coincides with the curse that God put on the snake, that he should crawl on his belly from that time on. Since then, snakes have no legs. If you can buy that, why can't we get over the talking part?
2006-08-22 00:38:18
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answered by Lisa 6
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God never did this Bob so no one is going to prove it to you. The snake is a metaphor for the ego, the false sense of self. The little voice in your mind that says try it when you know that you should not.
The whole Garden of Eden story is a metaphor for judgment. The fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a metaphor for judgment. When we judge something we are assuming that we have the knowledge of what good is, and what evil is. The simple truth is what ever God gives us is, is given to us in our best interest. We simply don't like some of it so we call it evil and see it as coming from somewhere external to God.
The lesson this biblical passage was supposed to teach us is obscured in a cloud of nonsense about snakes and devils and an absurdly judgmental overly sensitive God. I realize that we do not agree on some things but I think we can agree that this absurd vision of a God who sets traps in the garden hoping to be able to punish our ancestors is little more than nonsense.
We need to use these verses and parables in the way they were intended to be used, as teaching or instructional aids. Not as factual accounts, or in other ways that the writer of ancient scripture never intended for us to be using them. Seeing them as literal accounts of things that actually happened is ignorant at best, but it also causes us to miss the message or intent of the writer completely. This is unfortunate because some of these passages can be very helpful if they are used in the way that they were intended to be used.
Again we thank you for your continuing efforts.
Love and blessings
don
2006-08-22 00:45:03
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answered by Anonymous
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The mythological memories in each faith and holy books are lined to place across some stable and effective suggestions. yet people take those memories as actual and can't attain the real concept underlying the tale. technology has now for sure widespread that guy has more suitable from apes. The ape species had females and adult males, so, for sure, females and adult males of guy have more suitable at the same time. The Biblical tale that Male human grow to be created first and the female human grow to be produced from his rib isn't suited scientifically besides as spiritually.
2016-11-05 09:05:28
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answered by ? 4
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Eden seems to be this awesome place where everything is perfect. So I guess a snake talks there too.
What I don't get, is why God holds this major grudge on humanity, because of one chick that ate an apple.
2006-08-22 00:37:59
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answered by Southpaw 7
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Because it fit the story best. Snakes make a good nemesis because they are generally not liked by many people. It's not the first time snakes were used, nor the first "ejection from paradise" story, nor the last. Even now, the top selling movie is "Snakes on a Plane".
2006-08-22 00:26:15
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answered by nondescript 7
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No I'm not answering this question, just wanted to say that last year when I was in Iraq, in the city of Ur, I realized I was just a few miles from where they believe Eden was, between the Tigris and Euphyrates rivers. Ever been anywhere yourself? Just wondering.
2006-08-22 00:35:08
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answered by arvecar 4
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