Abomination?

Question

I asked two questions in an attempt to find a denomination that would be accepting of my partner and myself. People felt the need to call homosexual, and therefore myself, an abomination. While this turns me off to religion, and makes me realize how unlike Jesus christians are, I am unable to discern how homosexuality is the chosen abomination and how people know this is the route to hell.

If we are supposed to follow what the bible says, should we also have slaves? Should women be submissive to men? These are found in the new testament, but are not reallly followed. Any explanation why there is this selectivity?

See 1 Timothy 2:12 which states: "But I don't permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness."

Thank you to all who answered. I now know Christians truly are nothing like their Jesus. I now know Christianity has failed to live the righteous path of love.

If God will damn me for being what he created me to be, then I'd rather be damned than to live if your world of hatred, self-interest, self-righteous self-importance. If God wanted me otherwise, he would have created me so.

Answer 1

Simply because people tend to be homophobic, and they use some scripts to back up their opinion. I never seen many questions and bashing on people who are divorced, which is a sin also and they broke a promise which they made in a church and before "god". People are being selective and dont want to understand some things. They are capable of understanding indeed, but when they tell you that being homosexual is a choice, and you are one, with homosexual friends and possibly a partner and you know that this is not the case, and they hear it straight from the horse's mouth and still insist that it is a choice, its because they hate something that is different and they use their "god" to make their hatred Divine.
My advise? Stay out of churches and heresies (because this is what they all are in the end of the day) and help other people, send money to support children in third world countries and love the people around you.
Let the bashers live in their fairy tale, and do their role playing games. Now, if you really want to be close to god, then dont do it with others...in the end of the day it is between god and you, you dont need any a$$hole's approval.
I hope you find what you are looking for :)

Answer 2

First, you mentioned about abomination and the Bible. Sodom and Gommorah is not an abomination about sexual differences. It is about abuse of strength and power. If you have been observing what has been happening inside prison cells, that was it. It is that abuse that God has condmemmed.
Now, during Israel's plights when they were at constant war, men are not allowed to sleep with their wives when they are to engage themselves in battle. Most reason could be about maintaining bodily and spiritual strength. So, some personal urges should be restrained and two men may agree to do it while in battle that is what they are avoiding. I f ever God may not agree with your present situation, it is most likely that HE did not create you for that purpose because you naturally need an opposite sex to beget children. Now that the world is complaining about over population, maybe your existence has something to do to control that and that somehow you are also needed to take care of those children by natural couples who have no means to take care of them.
I have some news for you however, since you are using the Bible, take a look at this; Jeremiah 31:22 How long will you wander , O unfaithful daughter? The lord will create new thing on earth-- a woman will sorround a man."
If you think this is just about woman leading the nations, that has been done since the time of the early Pharaohs in Egypt before Christianity. It could only be surmised that there will be "woman wrapped in a man's body". It is a sign when the coming of the end of times is near. Meaning we are at the age where spirituality among men will set in. Armageddon is not about destruction of the world but the development of mankind into more spiritual nature than the wordly and materialistic. Man is the symbol of earthly matter and woman is the sign of spiritual matter. I hope it helps a little for you. It has never been your choice neither your fault to become like that. Many people like you have contributed a lot to a better world we live in.... in many fields...just don't think and make low of yourself. I am totally not gay but I understand.

Answer 3

People forget the golden rule...treat others as you would be treated. and love thy brother as thyself...right? and forgive your enemies...all except the GAYS?
That is why I refuse to bring my son up in an "organized religion". Just be a good person, God knows that. and after all he's the one wh makes the final decisions right? Are you and your partner good people? DO you treat others well? If you do then the problem is with the rest of society...let them go to Hell, I would rather go where you are going!

I do believe there is a denomination...they had a great commercial recently....about a church that had a bouncer and he was only letting in wholesome white families....he denied an interracial couple a gay couple, and a man in a wheelchair.........Jesus wouldn't do that....at least the one I was taught about.

As for the selectivity...it is ignorance and fear...people always tell me I'm turning my son gay, because I encourage his artistic expresssion (he's 2 for goodness sake) ... which is rediculous. Educated and tolerant people know that that is impossible, but I am afraid untill we get rid of these right winged hate mongers....there will always be strife....As the child of interracial parents, I know. Judging is not the answer but sometimes the masses follow the wrong way.

God made you in his image....he made you the way you are for a reason, and if he didn't want you this way, you would not exist. He loves you... to hell with what society thinks, what matter is what he thinks.... you know the truth and that is all that should matter.

Good luck

as for being submissive...my husband doesn't want a submissive wife...if he did he would have married someone else.

True christians don't exist....they are extinct....true people of god are unconditionally loving and accepting.

Life your life, not the life someone else want's you to live.

let these morons throw scripture at you all they want....
FOR THEY ARE THE TRUE SINNERS!!!

Answer 4

Women are supposed to be submissive and in a true Christian home it is followed.. Where does it say we should take up slaves in the Bible?? Homosexuality is an abomination, it's not the only abomination of Christ, there are many more, but you don't hear about them being done as much as homosexuality is, because they aren't as prevelant. It's not a selective thing, you have blinders on.

If you want the straight up truth ask a minister, priest, pastor, rabbi.. Don't be surprised by their answers.

Answer 5

Because people of every religious view often pick and choose the parts they wish to follow. It's impossible not to do so since there are many places where their scriptures say one thing but then say something different elsewhere. It's easier to attack homosexuality because it has less implications about the behavior of the ones doing the attacking. While they may look down upon infidelity and divorce, you don't see a widespread movement that condemning adultery or divorce as an abomination, even though it is a far greater threat to marriage than two gay guys wanting their commitment to be legally recognized.

As for more accepting denominations, you may want to look into the Unitarian Universalists.

Answer 6

Have you read Romans Chapter 1?
And... let me apologize on behalf of any Christians that have offended you or mistreated you.
Years ago I heard another Christian say "hate the sin, and love the sinner." It took years for that to sink in to a better understanding. A believing mature Christians loves all people and hopefully strives to see them through God's eyes - his beloved creation. But we cannot agree with sin, or condone it. Sin is sin, and it separates us all from God.
I understand the points you are making above - and I will tell you to look at God, and not at man. Slavery was wrong but practiced, and there are some passages that discuss men and women. These are compromises to God's Word and and only he can judge them - if you take scripture as His word then you believe and follow it - not in part but in whole. We cannot pick and choose. And remember, only God is our judge.
I am so glad you consider the ways of God and Christ - ask Him to guide you and show you what you seek and he will.

God Bless.

Answer 7

Try the United Methodist church. They are pretty open & open-minded as well.
As for selectivity - a lady just got fired from her 54 year position of teaching because the church she attends decided to get literal & said women shouldn't ever teach men anything. There are many sects where women are COMPLETELY submissive to men still & I mean here & now - not just 100 years ago.
I don't like to go to a church with folks like my mother-in-law - she a "good Christian woman" & right there in her pew every Sunday but she's done her damndest to hurt me & my children. What did I do to her? I refused to play the game that her son wasn't an abusive drunken s.o.b. So once she found out I wouldn't hold his hand, look the other way, pretend to the family that he was normal, she had nothing else to do with me. So much for love thy neighbor . . . lmao.
The pastors of the church can usually give you some idea as to how well received you & your partner would be. The earlier services are usually much more relaxed & laid back - you probably would find greater acceptance there. They also usually consist of younger folks, too - as opposed to the 11:00 service which is composed of the "old guard" Methodists. Sometimes I prefer the structure of the more formal service, sometimes I want casual. With the UMC you get both. Good luck & I wish you well. Honey, there are hypocrites everywhere, even amongst homosexuals - I'm sure you have to know that by now. Just learn how to deal & keep on keepin' on. It's what folks have to do.
I'm straight, by the way, but your sexual orientation doesn't mean a thing to me - I'll treat you like a decent person until you give me reason not to. e-mail me if you want anymore details - I'll be glad to help any way I can. peace -

p.s. "to be in quietness" huh?? lol No way - can't do it - I used to tell my ex Do Not start with me, You Will NOT win. Sorry, I got a brain and a mouth & I'm gonna use them!!!

Answer 8

The difference between a big sin and a little sin is whether it is mine or your's. We always see the other person's sins as being worse than our own. Homosexuality is not the unpardonable sin. Rejecting Jesus is the only thing that will send a person to hell. On the other hand, Jesus would not have approved of your ongoing homosexuality. Like the woman at the well, He says 'go and sin no more'. We are always turned off to religion when it gets in the way of how we want to live, but what good is a religion that doesn't have guidelines? There is really only one sin. That is the sin of disobedience. God says don't commit adultery, and if you do, you are guilty of disobedience to God. God says give to the poor, and if you don't, then you are guilty of disobedience to God. Consequently, all sins boil down to disobedience. Now, do you want a religion that says it's ok to be disobedient to God?

Answer 9

If you are a Christian, by now you have realized that all have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God, I'm sure.
That includes me.
Because I love Jesus and because I want to please Him, I am working to get the sin out of my life. It isn't always easy, but He is always there to help me. We've been making some progress, but we still have a way to go.
That includes you, sir.
You know that your lifestyle with your partner is sinful, I'm sure.
The question, I guess, is...do you love Jesus enough to work to get the sin out of your life, or are you just "playing church"?
Bottom line: It doesn't really matter if other Christians accept you or not, does it?
What really matters is if Jesus Christ accepts you. Jesus suffered and died for you, to save you from the consequences of your sin. When you insist on having your own way, you trample His sacrifice under your feet.
We know why other Christians should be more tolerant and accepting of you and your partner.
But why should Jesus?

Answer 10

Ok well I can't tell you much about the whole religious thing. But as far as people saying you're an abomination....you're not. Don't listen to close minded people who can't open their eyes to see that homosexual people are just like everyone else. People can't help how they feel. I'm not homosexual myself but I do have plenty of homosexual friends and they are no different than my straight friends in my eyes. What happens behind closed doors is no one else's business whether someone be straight in their sexuality or be homosexual. Don't listen to close minded people who don't know you as a person. There's no reason for it.