Southpaw, like your name. I think atheist spend more time thinking about God than the religious people. I think it has to do with being in the minority.
I can tell you for sure, there is no hell. If you went to heaven and your mother, father, spouse and siblings went to hell, would you truly be in heaven? Of course not how would that work?
Most religions are moving away from the hell concept. The bible references are ambiguous at best. Try not to worry about it. What is harder: is not getting mad at the hell mongers, let it go. Have a nice day, agnostic ned
2006-08-21 08:46:34
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answer #1
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answered by Ned 3
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If Hell really existed then it would be Christians that would go to Hell, and the sooner the better in my opinion.
The Bible is just a man-made play script, with several actors God, Devil, Jesus, Satan, Adam, Eve etc, and of course some intriguing imaginary places like Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and Limbo.
I certainly don’t believe in the Bible and I doubt any reasonably intelligent person would either. However, if you view the Bible as a man-made play script, with several actors God, Devil, Jesus, Satan, Adam, Eve, Noah, and so on, then you can certainly start to see a clever interwoven plot, that the audience is unaware of. It’s really just a drama thriller with clever twists.
You see, if you seriously think about it in an unbiased manner, then clearly the actor God in the Bible could really be the Devil, and the audience (religious believers) are being sucked into being the bad guys, who then use religion to get everyone fighting each other.
On the other hand, the more intelligent audience (Atheists) spot the plot and try their best to teach believers that this is just nonsense, stop getting sucked in. Some people have over time decided that the play is real. That's very sad.
2006-08-21 08:38:32
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answered by Brenda's World 4
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Hell, no! Christians or others say you go probably because they are very ignorance about their our faith and for which they like to cling or hang to something as a safety insurance when they die. Self confident people do not need to feel reliance on some greater power to give them salvation, but understand that their own actions will see them through. Their churches on the other hand are mostly financially and commercially motivated to continue this oraganisation called religion and yet fail miserably to teach and transmit the moral and spiritual aspects any organized religion. Organized religion's role is to reveal the moral and spiritual content for human society. Even atheists learn from these religious organization as their moral base. Believing in a god does not in the least determine their place in heaven or hell. Rather as you rightly pointed, it is the actions and deeds that count more.
If you did what you said you did, then I say you are a better person than most people. Let not the beliefs of others trouble you too much. Share your knowledge and not your debate.
Take care.
2006-08-21 08:58:34
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answered by SK 2
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the only way to heaven is through christ. let me ask you something...(who's deciding these things, you?) you're a good person, are you perfect? you will give me the clothes off your back (will you if i'm a christian?) would you give your life? you help others, have you helped everyone? you're caring and compassionate, have you been in EVERY situation? you try to be there for your friends, are you if they're not there for you? and are you there EVERY time they need you to be? you treat everyone as an equal but you obviously think there's such a thing as being a good person so you must think there's such a thing as being a bad person and that you are better than these bad people. the beauty of this is, though, that that's all okay. no one is perfect or good enough on their own but if you ask Christ to save you, you don't have to be perfect.
2006-08-21 08:43:11
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answered by practicalwizard 6
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Here is my thing if you are an atheist, then you don't believe in hell right? So why are you worried? An atheist does not believe in God, Jesus, Satan, Heaven or Hell. If you are concerned about this than maybe you aren't an atheist after all. But from a Christian view point you will have your judgment day just like everyone else. You'll have to answer to God for why you did not believe and no one else. No body should be telling you your going to hell because they do not know that, judge not lest ye be judged. Good luck to you, I hope you find the answers you are looking for.
2006-08-21 08:41:30
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answered by celtic925 2
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That's the kicker, it's not about good works, or charity to the poor or the needy. It's not about being caring or compassionate or being a good friend. It's about the blood sacrifice of Christ Jesus for the sins of the world. It's about faith, the deepest kind of faith that you can have. Jesus spoke in the Bible about that kind of faith when one of the disciples saw him from a distance and said knowing nothing about him "Surely this is the Messiah, the son of God, come to save us from our sins." Jesus was amazed at this man's faith in someone he had not seen or heard anything about yet. "You are saved by grace through faith, it is a gift of God not of works,lest no man should boast."
What you are describing are works, they are honorable and noble, but they are human works. So can an atheist do good things and be an honorable person, sure probably more so than some confessed Christians, do you get to heaven? Only if you are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ and have faith in him to save you.
Do you go to hell, well, that's not for us to say. I personally cannot answer that. I am a born again Christian and I know what I believe. The Bible tells you that the only way to the father is through the son. You have to figure it out for yourself.
Good luck and God bless.
2006-08-21 08:53:38
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answered by Only hell mama ever raised 6
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Your question comes down to this: can doing the right thing keep you out of Hell all by itself?
To this, the answer has to be "no." I could quote a lot of scripture, but you don't believe that, so let's go back to pure reason. Keep in mind that the idea of Heaven vs. Hell and being sent to one or the other presupooses someone to send you to one or the other, who will be for the purposes of this answer identified as "God." It doesn't answer any of the pressing questions of what God is, does, etc.
Now, if we were to make the criteria for going to Heaven or Hell being good, or doing good things, then you would get people who did the good things just to get into Heaven, and then would let loose with their evil natures. These people would do good for evil purposes. They would identify themselves as good people, give the clothes off their back, help others out, be caring and compassionate, be there for their friends and their enemies (opps, you didn't go that far, did you?) and treat others in accordance with their abilities and choices (which is actually better than treating them as equals) and then once they were in Heaven, and the vote had been cast and they no longer needed to fear Hell, then they would let loose taking advantage of those who would be kind to them, turning Heaven into a worse place than Hell for those who were truely righteous.
No, much more important than apperent good or bad that you do is the reason you do what you do. If you do it for the wrong reason, then it's meaningless. Now, is selflessness the right reason? Even to that, I would say it is not. If a person is to truely care for everyone, they must care for themselves as well, and to care for an evil person equally well as a good person puts you in league with an evil person, calling evil and good the same. So then what? Right judgement and then acting on it seems to me the closest thing we've got to a real reason to be cast into one or the other. So now you have to both know evil and respond to it, and know good and respond to it, and respond to it correctly.
But you can't be expected to know who all is good and who all is evil, can you? I mean, as I've already said, some people do good to evil purposes. And then there's the hard cases: what about the German soldier who only followed orders because he had a wife and children to feed and look out for, even though it pained him to put innocent people to death? How is one to judge his actions and his circumstance? Killing: evil; allowing his children to starve or worse putting them where they could have been killed themselves: same. No way out.
So, again, being a "good person" is not the right judgement to base if you're going to Heaven or Hell on. You'll have to find another criteria.
2006-08-21 08:59:04
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answered by Sifu Shaun 3
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Let's define hell. Hell is a state of mind where we agonize over our missed opportunities in mortality. In other words, when the person we are meets the person we could have been, that is hell. God is merciful to all that don't know any better. If we do have His law and choose to disobey it, then we will suffer for our disobedience. However, if we are good people and live according to every good law that we know of, then He will help us to learn the rest of His law that we are missing. He judges us according to the desires and intentions of our hearts. When we die, our spirits go to paradise for the basically good or prison for the basically bad. It sounds to me like you are a basically good person living as good a life as you know how to live. I would expect that you would go to paradise where God can teach you the rest of His law that you have not received in this life. However, by asking and receiving this answer, you are being made aware of more knowledge available to you. Therefore, it behooves you to seek for more knowledge that you may gain His law while yet in mortality rather than waiting until after death.
You may well say that why should you do that since God doesn't exist anyway? If you are right and I am wrong, then we are both good people and we have lost nothing. We will be remembered kindly. If I am right and you are wrong, then you have eternity to lose and I will have so much the advantage, having learned and pursued as much of God's knowledge as I can obtain.
2006-08-21 08:42:47
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answered by rac 7
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I believe you will be rewarded for your good deeds according to the Bible. The question is will you be rewarded on earth or the afterlife? BTW, atheists aren't punished to hell, they are denied heaven. The thing is, are you an atheist because you don't have a reason to believe, or is it because Christianity turns you off? Jesus wasn't real happy with the temple's practices, but he was a good Jew. Look around at nature, its complexity and beauty. If you think it is all a coincidence then it shouldn't matter. Nothing should matter. Why are you a good person?
2006-08-21 08:42:22
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answered by David L 1
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Hell doesn´t exist, it was created by the people or authorities to dominate people by fear. (it still works as you can see)
If you are such a wonderful person what is going to happen is that the same good you give is the same good you will get, eventually. When dying the energy you passed by doing all this good things will travel with you through time and leave some of you behind too. So keep up!
2006-08-21 08:41:56
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answered by copita 3
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