to those who may believe we are just this physical/phisiological body and nothing more! <everybody comment>

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Some people may believe we are nothing more than this physical or biologocal body.Well I want them and others to read this completely and share their views.
Normal people(wether religious or not,believer in god or not) become happy after they do a good act, even if their action can't be justified by materialistic laws , for example sacrifising one's self for another person, or to give your kidney to someone else for free.
And they will get sad in their hearts when they do something evil , even if they make a good money(that their actions are justifyable by materialistic laws) ofcourse I am talking about 'normal' people whose heart hasn't changed dramatically.
So if we read between the lines it proves there is something more than this physical world it proves reward and consequence for our actions. >>
this is a feeling so deep in our heart(deeper than one can say because they were taught it in the school when they were child), it is deep there.
Just like we love and want the beauty , we love good acts( even if they dont make sense with materialistic laws).
you know, when something is in our heart there is a response outside, if there is the hunger inside ,there is food outside. if there is the need of love inside ,there is marriage and love outside.For every natural need or tendency or feeling that we have inside our hearts ,there is a response a satisfaction outside. the response to this feeling is that there is more than
this world, there is reward and consequenses.
Things make sense.
If we admire sombody when he get killed, trying to rescue somebody else which doesnt make sense by the physical laws,it means our hearts knows that there is more than this physical world.even if some people has become unbelievers and consciously deny it while their hearts unconsciously act in according to spritual laws.
and yes when god created us he put this in our heart.
Note that I dont say non-belivers dont do good acts,some of them do,beacause the truth is in their hearts but they consciously deny it.and sometimes they act in according to spritual laws without paying attention to it.
peace to you all
a muslim friend.

to chooserea..:
you know it doesnt make sense in according to materialistic law to feel good about doing something good when has some materialistic damage to you.(like giving your kidney for free)
but this feeling is in all normal people

To passionfire:
no it is not because of the praise of others that we do good acts. well some people do like to show off about their good acts,
but those sincere ones will do the good deeds even if nobody find out about it.
and they feel even greater.
about the Idea of other people, as a muslim I believe who ever submit to God's will and obey the rules that God sent for us
by his last messenger prophet mohammad will be saved
and I believe that the original message of all the prophets like mohammad, jesus,moses .... were the same and that was to"worship only One God" but people in the course of history changed their original messages, untill he sent his Last prophet, prophet mohammad ,and God promised to protect the Holy quran from being changed.
so the message will remain unchanged in the quran . and there are millions copies of quran in the world , they are all excatly the same, some are so old but all are exactly the same .not even a word different.

and there are also miracles in the Quran like scientific , mathematical ....... miracles

Answer 1

of course the athiests will just say it is social conditioning or something picked up in evolution

well said

Answer 2

First of all I am a non believer. I have no religion whatsoever. I for one believe that these kind acts you speak of come from the mind not the heart. I deny the existance of god but not humanity. Just because I don't think something created all of this does not by any means make me want to do evil things. That feeling you speak of by the way is a chemical reaction that the brain releases into the body after doing something kind, mainly because of the response that is received by the party who gets your help. And there is no such thing as a good act that is not justified by materialistic laws...you may not receive money or a "prize" but is there not a pay off? Praise for your action can sometimes be more stimulating then any amount of money. People who get to tell their story of how they unselfishly helped another person give themselves a short term celebrity status. Especially if the act was so great it landed you on t.v. modesty is overrated. I have yet to see someone avoid blushing when receiving a compliment, on something they have done for someone else. Feel free to believe whatever you want it will not effect my life beyond this moment, but what about all those people out there who believe you are wrong in your beliefs and that you will go to "hell" just for being different then them. these are the so called believers of faith and virtue...what do you think of that?

Answer 3

I have to ask where the flaw is in the theory of social condition. Let's look at computers. We can program them to do whatever we want, and they'll do it whenever we tell it to run. No one has ever suggested that a computer has a higher being component.

The input mechanism is less direct for a person, but it still exists. Children are extremely impressionable and can be molded by external stimuli. People are up in arms about violent video games and television. Why? Because they know that children are impressionable and will be influenced by what they see at a young age. We shouldn't expect anything different for good acts. Children are taught repeatedly that selfishness is something to be avoided and that community service should be encouraged.

You want to say that it's something deeper than what we learned when we were young, but can you really separate teachings from internal instincts? I think that "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley puts forth a very lucid interpretation of childhood programming. Children are systematically bombarded with moral sayings while they sleep, all of which are designed to custom fit them to their predetermined role in society. Obviously, this is just a work of fiction, but it raises the excellent question of what really is intrinsic human nature and what it brought about by nurture. In the real world, we may not recite the so-called golden rule that we were taught so many times as kids (do unto others...) every time we treat others well at a cost to ourselves, but I would guess that on some level we are thinking about it.

While I can't entirely dismiss the possibility of a higher consciousness, I think that you have made a significant leap in your argument that isn't valid.

Answer 4

Why is there a need to attribute ones feelings to an outside force to begin with? Especially one as honorable as charity? You feel good when you do something good because you realize the significance of it. We as humans have the ability to empathize... When we help others we are able to put ourselves in their shoes and imagine how we would feel if someone did the same for us... It's just that simple.

Answer 5

I feel the truth about the real God is in your heart but you just deny it and continue to worship the false god who had the bible and quaran written and distributed.

The true God, Shecky of Space, is knocking at the door to your heart. Will you answer?