Why does god need to save us from himself?

Question

Jesus supposedly existed in order to save us, but if Jesus was god then he was saving us from himself. Wouldn't it have been simpler to just make us in such a way that he didn't need to condemn us in the first place?

Answer 1

You definitely made your point .
after all when something doesn`t work right ,you fix it .

Answer 2

God made us to have free will. Without it, we would not be responsible for anything we did, and simply put, we wouldn't exist as anything more than puppets to fate. As such, we have to be saved from OURSELVES: our ambitions, our greed, our desires, our blind lust.

Try this: go to a child and tell them to do something, anything that they are not willing to do on their own. Tell them to do their homework when they are playing. Tell them to eat all of their vegetables. Tell them to mow the yard. What happened? They balked? That's to be expected, it's human nature.

However, if you stop telling that child to do something and actually offered an example, he may just follow it. That's why Jesus' sacrifice is so important; He is showing by example that the right thing is sometimes the hardest of things to do.

God never condemned us; we condemned ourselves. It's up to us to save ourselves, as well.

Answer 3

Well,

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Answer 4

How about ... if Jesus IS God ... then Jesus couldn't die to save anyone, since God can't die. So the act comes down to a lot of fancy showmanship without any real sacrifice.

Answer 5

***Why does god need to save us from himself? ***

Good one.

The immaterial is not provable, that does not surprise me. Maybe such a thing does not exist or has lost interest in us.
The sacrifice being made by our boys in Iraq, now that is a true sacrifice.

Answer 6

We need to be saved from ourselves. We condemn ourselves. Adam was the first to sin. We are in constant rebellion against God by sinning. Jesus came so that in His sacrifice we have salvation. And be renewed.

Answer 7

Angels and Humans are given free will, to make their own choices. One Angel chose to go against God and want to be in charge. He couldn't, so he then chose to torment and get rid of what is most important to God, his creation in his image, humans. Jesus came to save us from that Angel who fell. The name of that Angel is Lucifer, Satan, the Devil, pick one, all the same fallen Angel. God loves us that much that he allowed himself to become flesh and suffer in humanly form, the torments of the world and ultimately die a cruel horrifying death in order to save us by the shedding of his blood. Why is blood important.
Taken from http://www.gotquestions.org/Christianity-bloody.html



Question: "Why is Christianity such a bloody religion?"



Answer: Hebrews 9:16-22 and Hebrews 12:24 seem to associate the shedding of blood with death. Elsewhere this association between the shedding of blood and the death of an individual or animal is repeatedly stated (Genesis 9:4-5; Leviticus 17:11,14; Deuteronomy 12:23; 19:6; Ezekiel 3:18; John 6:53-54).



Obviously, it is possible to kill someone without shedding his blood, but it is also obvious that if one loses enough blood, he will die. Perhaps God ties the two together in the Old Testament sacrifices because the visible shedding of the blood is a clear indication of death (whereas if something is strangled or hit on the head, it is not readily evident whether it is dead or merely unconscious). Perhaps also God uses the shedding of blood because the blood can then be sprinkled or applied as was done in the Old Testament, both at the Passover and at giving of the law, and at other times in order to associate the death of the sacrifice with other individuals, thus as it were imparting the effects of that death on those still living. But I am speculating.



As far as Christianity being a bloody religion, it is. But it is uniquely a bloody religion. Contrary to bloodless religions, it takes sin seriously, indicating that God takes sin seriously, and gives a death penalty for it. Sin is not a small matter. It is the simple sin of pride that turned Lucifer into a demon. It was the simple sin of jealousy that caused Cain to slay Abel, etc. And in Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit, they believed the deceiver over a good and loving God, choosing to rebel against His love and denying the goodness of His character. Christianity is a bloody religion because it views sin as a holy God views it...seriously.



Also, because God is just, sin requires a penalty. God cannot merely forgive in mercy until the demands of justice have been met. Thus the need for a sacrifice before forgiveness is possible. The shedding of the blood of animals, as Hebrews points out, could only "cover" sin for a time (Hebrews 10:4) until the intended and sufficient sacrifice was made in Christ's atoning death. Thus, Christianity is different from other bloody religions in that it alone provides a sufficient sacrifice to take care of the sin problem.



Lastly, although Christianity is a bloody sacrifice in these regards, it is the only religion that is bloodless in the end. The opposite of death is life. In Jesus' death, He brought life as is shown in so many verses. And in trusting Christ and His atoning sacrifice for one's sins, one is saved from death and has passed into life (John 5:24; 1 John 3:14). In Him is life. All other paths lead to death (Acts 4:16; John 14:6, etc.). Tell me, then, in light of these things, is Christianity truly the bloody religion or are those that promise life but lead to death because they can do nothing to get rid of the sin problem with its penalty?

Answer 8

As sinners WE, not God, have seperated ourselves from our divine creator. Jesus is the perpitiation (payment) which reconciles us back to God. He saves us FOR himself, not from himself.

Answer 9

You've got that wrong. Jesus died to save us from ourselves.

And he COULD have made us with no free will. But instead, he wanted our voluntary love, and to love us. That you choose to hate him doesn't make him wrong.

If you're government took away your rights to daily choices, would you be happier, or oppressed? How is it different with God?

Answer 10

No, Jesus died to save us from the sins that we commit out of our own free will.

Answer 11

You won't have your answer until the day of judgment but here is a clue. It's not GOD who has condemned us brother. Love You man, take care:

Revelation 12:9-11

New Living Translation (NLT)


9 This great dragon—the ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, the one deceiving the whole world—was thrown down to the earth with all his angels.

10 Then I heard a loud voice shouting across the heavens,


“It has come at last—
salvation and power
and the Kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.[a]
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters[b]
has been thrown down to earth—
the one who accuses them
before our God day and night.
11 And they have defeated him by the blood of the Lamb
and by their testimony.
And they did not love their lives so much
that they were afraid to die.