Islam's threat to the world?

Question

To quote Iran's president:

“I am decisively announcing to the whole world that if the world-devourers [i.e., the infidel powers] wish to stand against our religion, we will stand against their whole world and will not cease until the annihilation of all them. Either we all become free, or we will go to the greater freedom which is martyrdom. Either we shake one another’s hands in joy at the victory of Islam in the world, or all of us will turn to eternal life and martyrdom. In both cases, victory and success are ours.”

So, convert or die...

Answer 1

It is not necessary to convert or die, a person also has the choice of paying the jizyah (submission tribute).

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the man to watch these days. Leaders of the Iranian hard-line regime, believe they have a direct line to God, and they'll do whatever 'divine inspiration' requires them to do. Talking to them is pointless.

Ahmadinejad, rejected a UN Security Council resolution that would give Iran until Aug. 31 to suspend uranium enrichment. Ahmadinejad promised to respond to European and American demands to cease his country's illicit nuclear programs on August 22.

On Saturday, August 19, Iran launched a large-scale area, sea and ground exercise he maneuver, the Blow of Zolfaghar (the sword used by Imam Ali), which involved 12 divisions, army Chinook helicopters, unmanned planes, parachutists, electronic war units and special forces. Iran's state-run television reported that the new anti-aircraft system was tested "to make Iranian air space unsafe for our enemies."

On Sunday, August 20, in the Kashan desert about 250 kilometers southeast of the capital of Tehran, Iran tested the Saegheh missile which has a range of between 80 to 250 kilometers. Saegheh means lightning in Farsi. (The language of Iran is not Arabic and Iranians are not Arabs.)
Iran's arsenal also contains the Shahab-3 missile, which means "shooting star" in Farsi, and is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. It has a range of more than 2,000 kilometers and can reach Israel and US forces in the Middle East. Iran test-fired a series of missiles during large-scale war games in the Persian Gulf in March and April, including a missile it claimed was not detectable by radar that can use multiple warheads to hit several targets simultaneously.

On August 8, 2000, the Wall Street Journal published comments by Prof. Bernard Lewis, the great scholar of Islam and the Middle East:

"In Islam, as in Judaism and Christianity, there are certain beliefs concerning the cosmic struggle at the end of time - Gog and Magog, anti-Christ, Armageddon, and for Shiite Muslims, the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam. Mr. Ahmadinejad and his followers clearly believe that this time is now, and that the terminal struggle has already begun and is indeed well advanced. It may even have a date, indicated by several references by the Iranian president to giving his final answer to the U.S. about nuclear development by Aug. 22. This was at first reported as "by the end of August," but Mr. Ahmadinejad's statement was more precise."

Revolutionary Iran habitually links fundamentalist symbolism to political events.

Prof. Lewis explains the significance of Aug. 22 and adds ominously:

"This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and, if necessary, of the world. It is far from certain that Mr. Ahmadinejad plans any such cataclysmic events precisely for Aug. 22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind."

There are three issues that coincide with August 22, 2006.

1. It will mark the anniversary of a sacred event on the Islamic calendar: The 27th day of the month of Rajab of the year 1427CE (632 A.D.) is the day when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad (miraj) on the legendary winged horse Buraq, first to "the farthest mosque," (in Jerusalem) and then to heaven and back. Islam has its own lunar calendar so that Islamic holidays correspond to different dates each year on the Gregorian calendar.

2. This date roughly coincides with another event, the conquest of Jerusalem by Salah al-Din صلاح الدين يوسف بن ايوب‎ on Friday, 2 October, 1187.

3. It is perhaps the date that the Mahdi, (the guided one, the 12th Imam) is expected to appear (zuhur). Shiites believe Imam Mahdi will bring with him a new period of Islamic justice.

Lailat al Miraj (27 Rajab, 22 August 2006)
The festival is celebrated by telling the story of how the Prophet Muhammad was visited by two archangels while he was asleep, who purified his heart and filled him with knowledge and faith.

According to Islamic tradition, the Prophet travelled from Mecca to Quds (Jerusalem) in a single night on a strange winged creature called Buraq. From Quds he ascended into heaven lighting up the skies over the holy city in his wake. The divine white light that over Quds spread over the whole world.

Those who have mentioned the Mabath, Shiites focus on the 27th of Ramadan 610 AD (not the 27th of Rajab) as the date that the Archangel Jibril (Gabriel) Allah appeared before Muhammed in a cave in Mount Hira and told him he had been chosen as the prophet to spread the divine message across the world and gave him the first five verses of the first chapter, Surat al-Alaq. Mabath means the one appointed. This night of appointment is also know as the night of revelation, the night of might, destiny and the precious night. Yowm al Mabath (Day of appointment) is marked by Shiites in Iran and other parts of the Middle East with great ceremony. For 2006 Ramadan will begin September 24 and end on October 23, with the
Eid Al-Fitr.

Finally, the solar eclipse that occurred on March 29, 2006 was visible in most of the Arab world (Europe, Asia and Africa) and may have had prophetic significance. There is mention of an eclipse that heralds the appearance (zuhur) of the Mahdi.

The Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar are considered to be sacred months. Following the Islamic calendar and the Qur'an, the 7th month of Rahab ends on August 24, 2006 The 11th month, Dhul-Qi'dah begins November 22, 2006, the period between these dates would be a time permissible for aggressive jihad.

Qur'an Sira Barã´ah 9:5
Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill (fight and slay)the pagans (idol worshipers) when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. (and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war); If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go (open the way for them). Allah is Forgiver, Most Merciful. (Khalifa translation)

After the sacred months, (the grace period of four months) have expired, slay them wherever you find them. Seize them, besiege them and lie in ambush for them at all possible places. But if they repent, establish ‘salat’, and pay the ‘zakat’, then let them go their way. Of course, Allah is the most Forgiving and the most Merciful. (Munir Munshey translation)

فَإِذَا انسَلَخَ الْأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ وَخُذُوهُمْ وَاحْصُرُوهُمْ وَاقْعُدُوا لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ فَإِنْ تَابُوا وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَوةَ وَءاتَوْا الزَّكَوةَ فَخَلُّوا سَبِيلَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ
Fa-itha insalakha al-ashhuru alhurumu faoqtuloo almushrikeena haythu wajadtumoohum wakhuthoohum waohsuroohum waoqAAudoo lahum kulla marsadin fa-in taboo waaqamoo alssalata waatawoo alzzakata fakhalloo sabeelahum inna Allaha ghafoorun raheemun

No one wins in a war. Property can be restored, but even a lifetime is not long enough to resolve grief over a lost loved one.

Since Muslims, Jews and Christians have messianic beliefs, maybe praying for the messiah to come and bring lasting peace before the world destroys itself would be a win-win-win solution

Answer 2

Islam is not a threat to the world..
it is a religion in which so many leaders and the people have linked it to terrorist just because some of the arbaic leaders say no to the western on some agendas..
and usually it's about the nuclear weapons and what not..i mean c'mon,dun tell me the westerns dont have them stored somewhere too..and just recently i found out that the bombs being used by the israelis in lebanon are believed to be of uranium sort..and those stuff i know are sponsored by the US.i mean isnt that radioactive and say ten or twenty years from now we'll see the effects on the ppl there like cancer and stuff..

so my point is,the Iran president is just giving warning to the US not to meddle in their country's business and not give any provoking comments...i mean how would the US feel if anyone was to comment on their country's affairs..let's not be so prejudiced on each other and let us all live in peace..

Answer 3

i have nothing against islam. i have nothing against all other religions. what i am against is when a religion becomes a religion that include violence and hate. there shouldn't be a dogma of violence in a religion.

afaik, please someone correct me if i'm wrong, the reason why some (note the word "some") islamic beliefs evolved to include hate and violence and holy war is because of what had happened in history. there was a time when christians sought to destroy muslims, but this was all in the past, in a period in history that is rightly called "the dark ages". it was a moment in history when people didn't know any better.

there were many mistakes in the past that was done in the name of propagating a certain religion. many were hurt and betrayed through ignorance or lack of understanding regarding a certain religion. let us not repeat them.

the iranian president's statement is rehashing an old hurt, i know muslims are very offended at being ostracized and misunderstood for everything, and i am sorry for all the things that has happened and is happening because people do not try to understand islam or be more compassionate towards people whose beliefs are different from them, but war is not the answer and it doesn't have to be islam against the world.

Answer 4

yeah right this isn't a true person of Islam because true Muslims don't believe this and you are a terrorist even if this is a joke you are no better then the American terrorist like Timoth McVey and the rest of the loony tunes if you are trying to call yourself a Muslim you need to go back and read the Qu'ran where is says Islam is a religion of peace not all this garbage you are talking about and Muslims don't say convert or die Muslims don't push their religion on anybody if someone is willing to learn then teach them other then that you don't push yourself on someone that is what turns people against religion so go back to Juma and say a few extra prayers for yourself

Answer 5

I think this quaint subtle statement should be forwarded on to all the "Far Left-Wing -Liberal-Bleeding Heart -ACLU adoring Democrats" and ask them for God's sake, "WHAT IS THEIR SOLUTION TO FIGHTING WORLD-WIDE ISLAMIC TERROR"?

Would you trust 'Dr' Howard Dean or Ted Kennedy or Hillary with
the security of America even if they ever manage to articulate a viable different solution than OTHER than the steps being take now?

So far no one has heard any rational or clear cut policy from the Far Left Wing Liberals Radicals except that, Islam is Muslims are misunderstood so "Hug a Muslim" and bury your head till the next 9-11?

Hillary was quoted as saying "she would once elected "Fight Islamic terrorists where they are "!?!?!

Duh, "Hello. Earth To Hillary, Earth to Hillary" ?????!!!!????

Answer 6

World-Devourers = Non-Islamic forces are out-of-control.
(There are some benefits associated with making space for evolutionary forces. And there are some benefits asociated with a heavy-handed approach to conformity. Which do you prefer?)
World-Devourers = Islamic forces are totally under control.
(Are you the only person who believes this nonsense?)
World-Devourers = Everything must be controlled
because without total control of the right kind
there will be chaos and nobody wants that.
(Trying to controlling everything may have some benefits but total control requires a great deal of manipulation. Human beings don't normally like being manipulated but you can usually get away with it if no one knows what is going on (not even you). In the non-muslim world there are an enormous number of manipulation systems in the marketplace and individuals are encouraged to choose their own maniplations from those that are available or even to make up their own manipulations. You see this as chaos, whereas I see this as providing a freedom that allows positive and helpful evolution. I suppose that your Islamic view is easier to understand).
World-Devourers = Islam provides the kind of control
that is needed in the world today.
(Islam wants to take away all of the worlds complexities. Did Mohamed actually say that complexity is the main enemy and that you must be ready to lay down your life if this is necessary to rid the world of complexity? The reason the whole world hates Islam is because of its itotally irrational fear of complexity. And the reason that all muslims are terrified of non-muslim culture is because its complexity seems to be growing all of the time. Each individual muslim is terrified by the thought of having his simple world obliterated by complexity and this is what drives many of them to behave in extremely irrational ways. Non-muslims are terrified of the irrationally destructive behviour of muslims who hate complexity).
World-Devourers = Other religions may provide
some degree of control but the kind
of control provided by Islam is by far
the best.
(Only Islam is commited to the complete elimination of complexity).
Infidel = Anyone who is not for me is against me.
(a touch simplistic?)
Annihilation = Eliminate all complexity no matter what the cost.
Annihilation = If it is necesary to nuke the whole planet in order
to get rid of complexity then this must be done.
Martyrdom = Better no human beings at all than suffer
a wolrd with a single non-muslim in it.
(Well, you've just got to admire your focus, dedication and commitment. Accommodating other views can be a complicated process, can't it? So I suppose compromise is out of the question?).
Martyrdom = All or nothing.
(Now this really is the chant of a lunatic!).

Can you not see that your position is not as sound as you thought it was?
Can you not see any flaws in your arguments?
Can you not see any weaknesses in your arguments?
Can you not see that there are some other points of view that have some validy too?
Can you not stand that idea of having two contradictory view points and seeing value in each?
Do you agree that you have a problem with complexity?
And do you not see that you also have a problem with contradiiction?
You want to eliminate all conflict from the world through pressure an even force.
I want to eliminate all conflict from the world through the right kind of discussion and the right kind of negotiation.
Can you see no merit whatsoever in my approach to these matters?

Please try and understand the non-Islamic world.
The non-Islamic world is trying to understand you.
Reciprocate and work with us and not against us.
We are not against you but our system may cause your people frequent problems. Instead of demonising us and calling us infidels (legitimate targets) approach us as a friend and explain to us what changes we could make to our system for your benefit. Do you really think that campaigns of terror will be better at getting our sympathy?

Martin Camden.

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Answer 7

Don't take it too seriously for they always talk too much but just be watchful because there are those who will always stab you in the back. Do you think those rhetorics can instill fear? If it will really come then what shall we do, run to our mamas? We all have one lives. That damn Iranian is no better than anyone.

Answer 8

-When was the last time Iran attacked another nation, my email is [e-mail], please let me know...
-Iran has it reasons to be angry ( history, that is not tought in the USA)
-If you really think all muslims are as portrayed as they are on US media, you are wrong! and in fact you are brainwashed to be ignorant/intolerate just like the poor muslims who are taught to blow themselves up.

-right now, the only threat to the world is the nation that has enough nukes to annilate the world 40 times

-why didn't muslims desperately blow themselves up 100 years ago? because they were not yet invaded by oil-thirsty regimes

-the whole world knows this is dirty propaganda. just think about it

Answer 9

Iran's nuclear aspirations must be eliminated at this present time, or the world will be in serious trouble. The United States either needs to do it or call upon Israel to do it.

That is called a PREEMTIVE strike, and in medical parlance it's known as "preventive medicine." You don't wait for a disease to manfest itself if you can prevent it, and you don't wait for thousands to die if you can prevent it. Liberals, of course, can't understand that because they're completely mentally ill.

They're also in complete denial if they can't see that Islam is the biggest threat to the world today, and wants to kill everyone that does not go along, including Christians and Jews.

Answer 10

That is a scary thing to hear. Because you know for a fact that they're not afraid to die for this cause, and if they have to release nuclear weapons on the whole world, they'll do it.

Great.

Made my day.

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I know this isn't all Muslim views, but it's the extremest that worry me.

Answer 11

That sums up some people's view of Islam, yes. There are extremists in all religions, but I will admit that Islam seems to slant toward world domination no matter how you look at it.

So convert or die? I will die fighting conversion, TYVM.