why is it that catholics don't use the bible and know nothing about putting christians to death?

Question

I recently ask the ? why baptize infants ? not one catholic had any scripture on the matter,I was also shocked to find they know very little about the history of there church.have they never heard of Martin Luther . if you really want to see how ungodly this sect has been just punch in martyrs mirror on your search button .I know we all make misstakes , but during this time catholic priest were not much different than ben lodden.and please before you go getting upset with me search out what I am saying . If I'm wrong I'll eat my crow wail its warm

Answer 1

The Vatican has preempted the Bible.
They make ALL the rules now.

The Vatican teaches ""Another Gospel""

Members are AFRAID to escape.

Answer 2

you assume too much. I would like to know how many people did you actually ask, that were practicing catholics. How many were practicing before and after second vatican council? How many of them are cradle catholics or those who converted? 2, 10, 30? It probably wasn't around 5. Try looking up apologetics. baptizing infants: john 3:5, mark 16:16, 1 Corinthians 15:21-22, Luke 18:15, colossians2:11-12, Acts 16:15, 16:33, 1 Corinthians 1:16. Catholics don't live with the bible attatched to our hips because we use the bible, doctrine, tradition, and teaching of the church. I used to think that way too, I eventually became a catholic. You won't understand anything unless you study it. Also, just because people can't quote you an exact verse doesn't mean anything. Verses aren't what matters, what matters is what we believe in. As far as people not being able to go to the scriptures for reasons why they do the things they do, there are many protestant christians that are in the same boat. Not everyone on earth is trying to be a bible scholar or theologian. Not everyone reads their bible every single day. Just so you know, Martin Luther never wanted to leave the church, he just wanted reform in the church and at the time the church fathers didn't want that, but then when they did try to reform with the council of trent some people came back some didn't. I'm not trying to attack you but advising you not to make assumptions based on a small sample of people that is not representative of a certain population. when people make assumptions, the majority of the time they are wrong.

Answer 3

You're kidding, right? Ever heard of Martin Luther? Did you ever hear of the 95 Thesis? Do you know what it says? Have you read the document? I have. By the way, even after Luther was excommunicated he still considered himself Catholic...separated from the Church, but Catholic in theology. He even kept a deep respect for the Blessed Virgin Mary and continued to venerate her. It was the Protestants that came after Luther that really skewed things. Luther himself didn't like a lot of what he saw in the new emerging Protestantism.

Catholics don't use the Bible? My God, where have you been? There is more Bible read in the Catholic Mass than in any Protestant services. The Mass consists of "Readings". An Old Testament reading, a New Testament Reading, and the Priest or Deacon will read from the Gospel. Mass is conducted EVERY day, not just once or twice a week. And a system is in place that will cover reading the ENTIRE Bible in a three year period.

You know only what you want to know about the Catholic Church, which is apparently little to nothing. If you're interested in really learning about it, go to the source. Read the Catechism of the Catholic Church and attend RCIA. After you've done that we'll talk.

Answer 4

you're making some good factors. Like maximum subjects, you will discover Biblical help for the two section in case you look stressful adequate. Shakespeare as quickly as wrote, “the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.” That reported, it somewhat is actual that there are a number of Bible passages (incredibly in the OT) that help capital punishment, often for quite trouble-free offenses: - Adultery (Leviticus 20:10) - Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:sixteen) - Breaking the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14 & 15) - Disobedient infants (Exodus 21:15 & 17; Leviticus 20:9) - Homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13) - no longer being a virgin on your wedding ceremony nighttime (yet on condition which you're a female - Deuteronomy 22:20-21) some people cite Romans 13:a million-7, which states that each and one and all governments are sanctioned by skill of God, and if the government dictates some thing (like capital punishment), then it somewhat is God’s will. How might those people clarify governments like Hitler’s Germany, or Stalin’s Russia, or Pol Pot’s Cambodia, or any of the masses of alternative governments who have been in charge for terrible atrocities for the time of historic previous? Governments are run by skill of individuals, who're – inherently – imperfect. for this reason the U.S. has a gadget of assessments and balances, and why our regulations are continuously changing (undergo in thoughts, there became right into a time whilst slavery became into criminal, whilst women couldn’t vote, whilst there have been no newborn exertions regulations, etc.). This argument in basic terms would not fly. Your element approximately Matthew 5:17-20 is nicely taken; there are a number of different passages you have gotten pointed to besides (many passages in the OT verify the eternal nature of The regulation). although, you're able to additionally seem to Romans (6:14; 7:4,6; 10:4) and Galatians (3:13, 3:24-25, 5:18), between others which point out that Christ is the recent regulation. There are additionally many passages (esp. in the recent testomony) that are ANTI-dying penalty. as an occasion, Matthew 5:38-39 insists that violence shall no longer beget violence. James 4:12 says that God is the only one that could take a existence in the call of justice. Leviticus 19:18 warns against vengeance (which, somewhat, is what the dying penalty quantities to). In John 8:7, Jesus himself says, "enable he who's without sin solid the 1st stone." there are a number of, many useful problems with capital punishment (that I won't get into right here), yet only from a ethical viewpoint, i'm no longer able to think of that Jesus might help it. actual Christians shouldn't, the two.

Answer 5

I suggest that your question has been put before very few Catholics and that you may have heard certain things that you accept as fact because you want to believe in this bias.

Catholics do use the bible. Catholics do know about Christians being put to death. Who do you think the Christians in the Roman coliseum were - Presbyterians?

All moderately educated Catholics know of Martin Luther.

And why do you call the oldest Christian congregation known to man a 'sect'?

And just where in scripture does the injunction against baptizing infant's exist? Where in scripture is it ever revealed how old someone should be to be baptized? Truth be told, there is very little record of baptism in the new testament. Jesus was baptized of his cousin, John the Baptist. And scripture says that John the Baptist was baptizing people but it is not recorded how old those people were.

You have a Catholic bias and you are wrong.

Eat your crow before it gets cold.

Answer 6

There is a reason that no catholics had any scriptures to say on that matter, there are none, per se. Of course, the catholic church also teaches that the church has equal (if not superior) authority to the Bible, so the only answer they really need to give is "because the church says so."

It sounds like your last question was a very good question. However, this is not so much of a question, as a chance just to be vulgar towards the catholics (not a very Christian attitude, btw). For that reason I will have to report you.

Answer 7

The problem is the members of the church now and not the church itself. The Church has taught the faithful for many centuries ago in accordance to the Sacred Scriptures and the Sacred Tradition. So how dare you say that the Church is an ungodly sect? Always has the Church served God, defended the faith, and protected the faithful.I'll answer your questions one by one.
1.In order to save them, cleanse their soul from original sin, become adopted sons of God, and recieve sanctifying grace.
2.proof? in the Bible there stated:"unless a man be baptized in water and in spirit, he may not enter the kingdom of God". So, how can you explain this?
3.Catholics of today knew little of the faith and history of the Church because they have lost the interest of knowing it better. Still, the Church teaches it to them in any manner it could.
4.I know Martin Luther, but I doubt if you really know him. A little maybe, but not that much to know his real purpose and his ideology about protestantism.
5.Look on a different point of view, do you really believe that those you accuse of are really catholic priest? Do you really believe that your convictions are correct that their actions are like of a terrorist? Think again and know more about this things before you make your statement.
6.You may now eat.

Answer 8

If you ever attend a Catholic service you may find that Catholics use more of the bible in their services than any other religion. We have three one year cycles of readings from both the Old and New Testaments. Some mainline protestant churches have adopted a similar scripture readings cycle. I do not know what Catholics you interviewed, but it couldn't have been that many. In the New Testament Matthew 19:14, "Let the children come to me" and Acts 16:33, "then he and his family were all baptized at once" are two verses that are used to indicate that child baptism was acceptable. What do you usually eat with your crow. God bless you.

Answer 9

You make many basic mistakes.

We Catholics know all about the true history of our church. We were the church long before the first Protestant was ever born.

We're the guys who converted the whole world for Christ, at great personal expense.

Protestants showed up 1500 years late, after most of the important work had already been done, and quickly set up their own false traditions of men, in opposition to the long established truths of God's original, and only church.

We converted the pagans ... and you claim we were paganized.

We compiled and certified all the true books of the the Bible ... and you claim we corrupted it.

We personally experienced Christ, the Apostles, Mary, the crucifixion, the resurrection, Pentecost, and more. You claim it doesn't matter, and that our apostolic and sacred traditions are all wrong.

You choose to base all your beliefs on the often sketchy accounts contained in scripture alone, and then you attempt to "fill in the blanks" with the various and false teachings of 31,000 different Protestant creeds.

Then, you claim Catholics don't understand things properly!

We converted the Roman emperor Constantine ... and you claim he converted us.

We converted the whole world ... and you claim the world converted us.

We trust in the irrevocable promises that Jesus Christ made to the church he personally founded ... and you call him a powerless liar, and a cheat.

You criticize our pope, who was given his office by God ... yet you follow men like Billy Graham, Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swaggart, Benny Hinn, and millions of other "pastors" who possess no God given authority whatsoever.

You assume Catholics know little about Martin Luther ... when it's your own Protestant brethren who long ago abandoned his fairly conventional teachings on many faith issues.

The false Protestant tradition of naming anyone a martyr who leads the faithful astray, and is called to account for it, is just one of your errors.

The real martyrs were the ones who witnessed the true, Catholic faith in Rome, and happily went to their deaths rather than deny Christ, or compromise their Catholic beliefs in any way.

You equate martydom with the just punishment afforded heretics, and doing so, you dishonor the real and authentic martyrs, who spilled their own blood, to bear witness to God's truth. Not THEIR VERSION of the truth.

You equate Catholic priests with terrorists, yet you know nothing of true priests, or what God consecrates them to be, or to do.

Your extra biblical sources are two: Fox's Book of Martyrs and The Two Babylons. Both are flawed, terribly biased works, based on a little or no truth and much anti-Catholic propaganda.

From these two poisoned sources, flows all of your supposed "knowledge" of the evils of Catholicism, priests, and the popes, and most all of your research sources, too.

Finally, you ignore the clear old testament antetype of required circumcision on the eighth day of life, and you conveniently ignore the witness of entire households (which would logically include infants) being baptized, as recorded in the New Testament.

Many Protestants even disclaim the underlying reality of original sin, which is the main reason we all need to be baptized as soon as possible, after entering this world.

Oh yeah, before I forget, why is it that BAPTISTS DON'T BELIEVE in the NEED for BAPTISM?

And you think we Catholics have problems?!

Answer 10

How DAREyou talk like that about the catholic church!!!Why are you expecting catholics to live by protestant standards? You should be living by their standards since they are the mother church for ALL protestant religions.
They baptize infants because the mortality rate was very high until just about 50 years ago, and they want the child to go to heaven not pergatory. And catholics do use the bible, unlike most fundamentalists who only use revelations. Martin luther was a rebel who didn't like the church telling him how to live, and made his own church and, I have to say, he was one very sick individual, beating and torturing people who he decided were his followers until they did exactly what he told them. And most catholics are more godly than any fundamentalist baptist or pentecostal today, especially fools like yourwho don't knowwhat they aretalking about, only parroting their equally ignorant preachers

Answer 11

If you want a clear explanation of the Catholic position on infant baptism, go to this link:

http://www.catholic.com/library/Infant_Baptism.asp

The problem lies in the Protestant interpretation of baptism's meaning versus the Catholic interpretation. This article explains the difference between the two positions and does include plenty of Scripture. (Which, incidentally, we DO read and obey.)

Care for some ketchup to go with that crow?