Why don't you accept that God is going to save all mankind?

Question

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I have yet to be refuted. You now have another chance. Again, to point out the common fallacies, I Timothy 2 and Isaiah 46 are explicitly clear that God wants all mankind to be saved, and that everything God wants will happen. All your illusions of choice and free will are completely irrelevant. Attempting to appeal to those only serves to contradict the fact that everything that God wants is exactly what God will have happen (namely, the salvation of all mankind).

Do you refuse to accept this because you won't be able to wag your fingers at the non-believers on Judgment Day and say, "I told you so!"? The fact that God will save all mankind should bring joy to your heart. Refer to:

www.bible-truths.com

for more information.

"Then you must read the rest of the Bible other than 1 Timothy 2 and Isaiah 46 because my Bible tells me that people will go to hell..."

Thank you for admitting that you believe a book of contradictions. Have a good day.

Answer 1

Save us from what?

Answer 2

Another two points. OK.

Let's use the New Living Trans for those who don't want to look it up.

1Timothy 2:4 (NLT) for he wants everyone to be saved and to understand the truth.

That is absolutely true. I'll even throw in another.

2Peter 3:9 The Lord isn't really being slow about his promise to return, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to perish, so he is giving more time for everyone to repent.

But it's your decision and yours alone.

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

He knocks. He doesn't barge in. He doesn't try the doorknob.
He waits. He's not going to wait forever.

When the hammer falls the game is over. Then he will seperate the believers from the non-believers.

Matthew 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:

That's His plan from the beginning - from the foundation of the world.

Isaiah 46:19 (NLT) Only I can tell you what is going to happen even before it happens. Everything I plan will come to pass, for I do whatever I wish.

Everyone is NOT going to make it.

Matthew 7:13 (NLT) "You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose the easy way.

If you choose to believe everyone will make it I can only wish you luck.

Answer 3

If god wants all of mankind to be "saved" and free will is irrelevant then you wouldn't be having such a hard time convincing atheists you're right. There wouldn't even be any argument about who is right or wrong.

The fact that there are atheists contradicts your entire argument.

Dude in the funny hat, I'm really sorry but that's the kind of sloppy logic just doesn't add up.

Consider yourself refuted.

Answer 4

I believe and I am regretful for those who don't.
But I fear that the different understanding about salvation would remain as an unsurmountable obstacle for some more time.
Men will peacefully return to earth, men will be protected by a just world leader, men will accept Christianity or Islam or Buddhism; men will all become atheists; men will enjoy a divine civilization in an united community? Yes, what kind of salvation and who will be powerful enough to bring about that salvation?

Answer 5

It would make me very happy to know that no one would perish, if that were the case..but that is not it at all.
Jesus said that He is the Way, the Truth and the life..and He said that NO ONE comes to the Father, except by Him. There is no place for sin in Heaven..The Word of God has made it clear what will happen to God's children, as well as the ones that have denied Him.
And man plays a role in the will of God. God may have a will for my life, but it is up to me whether or not I do it..He will not force me to abide by His will...so yes, free will has a BIG part in it.

Answer 6

This passage is implying that Jesus' lack of existence on the flow has already saved all men---through providing Salvation for them to "receive in the journey that they prefer it." he's really the Savior of believer's because we've familiar Him because the Lord of our lives. The Apostle Paul likely did pontificate on judgement / destruction. His teachings were those of warnings and applications so as that a Christian received't lose their Salvation through drifting away and sprucing off in hell.

Answer 7

God gave His only begotten Son that WHOSEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH.

Simple math...Believe in Jesus Christ, The Son of God, and Live or choose not to and die the second death in Hell.

Just what is it you are trying to prove here? That the Bible contradicts itself? Here, I took the time to copy and print this for you so you can go to bed knowing you have been refuted.

Good night!

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Answer 8

Thanks for the lecture... Are you done??? Then you must read the rest of the Bible other than 1 Timothy 2 and Isaiah 46 because my Bible tells me that people will go to hell...

Answer 9

So what about REVELATION where it is written there will be two groups of people...
Yes EVERY knee shall bow and Everyone will know THAT HE IS GOD.
But still not all will accept HIM, they will be angry at HIM and still some will be condemned to hell.
He WANTS all to be saved and come to HIM, but not all will be saved and come to Him.
Not by works, nor deeds, only through the blood and salvation of JESUS Christ.
Only those who believe in HIM will be saved.
That is what I believe.

Answer 10

Because some people outwardly profess to be without God and choose an alternative existence whether it be with a satanic realm, dark forces or other form of existence against his will.

In other words God gives us a choice but it is up to us to choose our destiny...

Answer 11

I suppose that really depends on if we accept the bible as truth or not. Quoting verses at me doesn't change my mind if I think it's just a book of myths anyway. Just because you read me stories that you believe doesn't make it true for me.

Sorry, no convert here.