Should a murderer who murders woman be charged with murder or should Islamic law be applied?

Question

If a Muslim murders a woman in an Islamic country, and claims that the reason for the murder was to defend family honor, in Jordan, as in most Islamic countries, the murderer is not charged with murder or murder that carries the same penalties as normal murder.

In Jordan, people who murder woman and claim that it was for "honor" wont serve more than several months, and need not serve anytime.

The woman need not have had sex, her murderer need only have felt that she was doing something "dishonorable".

Read the artile from Al-Jazerra below, it talks about the "Islamists" not wanting to change their "religious" tradition.

"Murder cases carry stiff penalties in Jordan, but honour killers usually receive reduced sentences since their crimes are considered to be committed in “fits of rage” or as a “crime of passion”, sparked by “unlawful action” on the part of the victim." http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8B1CC7F4-AA09-4D35-99BD-3C556A03877A.htm

Answer 1

Charged with murder - what about if a woman murders a man for the same reason "honor" - does the same law apply - I doubt it.

I read the article and its just a whole different ball game in these Islamic countries.

I've said before that the Islamic culture needs to come into the 21st century and this is just another example of the dark ages.

We not only have to worry about terrorism, but when this culture starts to emesh itself within in our Christian based countries, we have these religious traditions to contend with.

Those poor, poor women.

Answer 2

Is Jordan Allah? Why do you even take it as an accurate representation of Islam?

In Islam, both men and women get the exact penalty for murder. This 'honor' bluff is just a reflection of a conservative culture of some group.

Now chill out.



Daydreaming: Saudi Arabia does not apply the Islamic law concisely. It is still affected by culture. For instance, women are not allowed to drive by law. What does this have to do with Islam?

Answer 3

Ok so first know that all Islamic countries have not elected their gov'ts (exception is Indonesia and Iran). Each govt has been imposed BY THE WEST on the muslim nations, just look at iraq. So what do you see being carried out in all these honor killings?? its being said in the name of religion but has NO BASES in religion its stupid culture of the region that has persisted throughout the dark ages What islam came to eliminate but has yet to eliminate it. These rulers know nothing their all extremists in their own mindset and subjugate their people. People cant even protest or have reforms in their countries, and the U.S. doesnt care about that. So dont bring these honor killings no religion condones murder. ANd islamically yes if that person were to kill his wife in the time of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) he would have been put to death. There is certainity that reform is needed in these countries and its not that Islam needs reform its the political, social and judicial systems that have been corrupted since the end of WWI that need reform (WWI b/c thats when our land was divided/colonized by the west). Dont blame Islam blame those ignorant fools sitting in power in those countires who dont give a rats a** so long as they stay in power and have their way, and NO one can stop them cuz the US supports them all. $$$OIL

Answer 4

A person must abide by the laws of the country in which he/she resides. If the people in that country do not agree with the law then they ought to take steps to change it. I live in the US. A person who kills another person for any reason will be charged with murder in the first degree if the muder was premeditated, in the second degree if the murder was not premeditated but was a violent act and in the 3rd degree if the murder was unintentional but due to negligence. The honor killing would be considered murder in the first degree and would carrry a death sentence of life in prison depending upon the sentencing laws of the state in which the crime was committed.

It is my understanding that in Islam killing is not allowed except for "just cause" and the victim is not an "innocent person".

Muslims are forbidden to kill "innocents" according to the Quranic definition of innocent.

Qur'ān Surah Al-Mã´edah 5:32
...If someone kills a human being, unless as a penalty for murder, or unless it is to prevent the spread of corruption in the world, it is as if he has killed the entire humanity. (Munir Munshey trans.)

...anyone who murders any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he murdered all the people. ... (Khalifa trans.)

... whosoever killed a person - unless it be for killing a person or for creating disorder in the land - it shall be as if he killed all mankind... (Sher Ali trans.)

And also
Qur'ān Sura Banî Israel 17:33
And do not kill anyone. Allah has prohibited it, except when it is rightful and befitting (and corresponds to the crime).(Munir Munshey trans.)

And slay not the soul, the slaying of which Allah has forbidden, save for a just cause...(Sher Ali trans.)...

Answer 5

This is America Jack. Murder is murder. Personally, I feel that if a man murders a woman he should automatically recieve the death sentence. Peace and God bless.

Answer 6

If someone is convicted of murder - I think the stiffest penalty should be applied including the death penalty. There is no excuse for murder - ever.

Answer 7

No Islamic country use the Islamic law, except for Saudi Arabia (I'm talking about the laws on how to rule a country). Like if you steal, your hand is cut off... UNLESS the one who you stole from forgives you...

http://www.al-islam.org/laws/

Answer 8

Murder is murder. There's no excuse for it, and I think everyone who commits murder should be on death row.

Answer 9

Murder is still murder and it's still wrong, no matter what the reason

Answer 10

That's scary.