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did Isaiah lie when he said 700 years ago-"Unto us a child is born, a Son is given, and he will be the prince of peace (sar shalom), God the father, the almighty God, and the wonderful counselor."

ok so i believe Isaiah -r the ones that claim they reject Isaiah -evidently to them he isnt Jewish -can they do that and still be Jewish -please help -they keep saying lol im not Jewish cause i believe in the Jewish Messiah Jesus. one said it doesnt matter even if Jesus is our Jewish messiah i wont believe in him-hello -who has the problem on this one-do u have a good answer -please!!!!

2006-08-20 10:36:49 · 15 answers · asked by ? 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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keep the faith David, there are people who still believe the world is flat. that a supposition is a fact, and that Jesus never lived. at least the Jews believe that. usually small people with small minds have big mouths. proverbs say you can tell a fool by his much talking.
please excuse the paraphrasing.
and yes you are a Jew, Jewish mean to be descended for Judah. it is a blood line not a religion.
and the phrase is a born again Jew.

2006-08-20 10:46:32 · answer #1 · answered by Hannah's Grandpa 7 · 6 2

If you look in the New Testament, you will see that after Jesus died there was a debate over whether or not non-Jews could also be Christians. Some believed that only Jews could follow Christ because Christ was Jewish and lead his life as such. Others believed that because Jesus preached a new doctrine the old laws of Judaism should no longer apply. So there were traditional Jews, and Jews who also followed Christ. It was only later that the 2 religions became mutually exclusive. Today, generally people who accept Jesus as a savior are seen as Christians, because Jesus is the primary difference between Judaism and Christianity. I'm Jewish and simply don't believe that Jesus was the person the old testament was refering to as the Messiah, but I think that if you find that being Jewish and worshipping Jesus makes you a good person then do it. Who cares what other people think?

2006-08-20 18:48:39 · answer #2 · answered by Arp3276 3 · 1 0

Dude - you aren't Jewish if you follow Christ - by definition you would be a Christian. The belief in Jesus totally contradicts Judaism, and believing that Jesus is the "Messiah" rather than Elijah is just another way of calling yourself a "Jew for Jesus", or basically an oxymoron - you call yourself one thing, and believe another.

To smiley george - Excuse me? You claim that Judaism is not a religion, but a blood line? Assuming that your photograph is of you, I can make the following statement:

With age does NOT come wisdom.

2006-08-20 22:53:48 · answer #3 · answered by The Yiddish 2 · 1 0

My old youth pastor said that as Christians we're fulfilled Jews. The Jews are waiting for the Messiah, Christians recognize that He already came as Jesus. So, you would still be a Jew if you accept and follow Jesus, but not in the traditional sense.

2006-08-20 17:43:56 · answer #4 · answered by STEPHEN J 4 · 0 0

David,
You are a christian. Stop this evil and deceptive form of missionizing. It degrades christianity.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApnC4dngKeRuGKyqQldbLd_zy6IX?qid=20060723102937AA4N2eb


It is, by definition, impossible for it to be "jewish" to believe in jesus. "Jewish" is, by defintion, what jews have historically and contemporarily believe. Since in neither scenario do we find "believing in jesus", then we must clearly realize that belief in jesus is not something "jewish". You can call it "biblical" (and still be wrong), but certainly not "jewish".

on the side, the subject of Isaiah 53 is promised a "long life" and "seed" (i.e. physical children). clearly this isn't about jesus.

and isaiah 7 is clearly not messianic if you read the whole chapter. and "alma" doesn't mean virgin either. You'd know that if you spoke hebrew (I guess it wasn't part of your "extensive jewish upbringing", huh?)


on the side, isaiah 9 can't be about jesus since, according to christianity, he's the "son" not the "father" (as the verse states). Nor did he have control of the governement (to the contrary, the roman government killed him). And he certainly did not establish "endless peace".

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Sources:
http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/jewishsociety/Why_Jews_Dont_Believe_In_Jesus.asp
http://jewsforjudaism.org/web/faq/general_messiah-criteria02.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_messiah#Textual_requirements

2006-08-20 17:47:04 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Hi David, good to see you.

Here's the way I've heard it. If your mother was Jewish you are Jewish forever. (That sounds genetic to me). If you accept Christ you are also a Christian. Don't they call them Messianic Jews?

So for the ones who don't believe Isaiah was speaking of Jesus Christ when he spoke of the "son who will be given" it just means they don't think Jesus is the Christ. But they are still Jewish.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why they don't see it, but they don't and that's between them and God, I guess.

2006-08-20 17:49:41 · answer #6 · answered by nancy jo 5 · 0 1

my pastor is a pastor at an evangelical free church and he is Jewish. Jesus said that his own ppl would betray him and turn against him, that is why many Jewish ppl do not accept him as Savior. However if you research all of the prophecies of the Old Testament prophets then you will see that Jesus fulfills every one! I amglad that you believe Jesus is Messiah, so do I:)

2006-08-20 17:43:53 · answer #7 · answered by malsvb6 3 · 1 1

how can you reject him? you can just not believe that he was the messiah, and that the messiah will come. that is what we, the Jews, believe. so yes, you would still be Jewish. You would still be Jewish if you didn't follow even one custom of the Jews.

2006-08-20 17:44:29 · answer #8 · answered by Josephine 2 · 0 1

What is "Jewish" today? Can you prove that the Jews today are truly of the tribe of Judah?

Is it a religion, a bloodline, or are you Jewish by geographical location?

What is God's view on "Jewishness"?

Therein lies your answer.

2006-08-20 17:48:05 · answer #9 · answered by ... 4 · 1 0

There is a lot of hate in this world, and a lot of people
use God and Religion as a means to hate and feel
justified in doing so.

- Doug W

2006-08-20 17:41:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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