If you are Armianist answer me this: If as you say, fallen sinful man can seek God out of their sinful condition before their hearts are regenerated by the Holy Spirit, why does the Bible say no one seeks God? You say faith then regeneration, but doesn't the Bible teach regeneration then faith? It is only as a mans heart is regenerated that he is then able to seek God, but not before as you claim.
2006-08-20 09:50:48 · 14 answers · asked by nobodiesinc 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I just LOVE these guys who take "3 words" and then quote them out of context. Give us the ENTIRE SENTENCE or are you afraid it will make a point you don't want made?
2006-08-20 10:03:18 · answer #1 · answered by AdamKadmon 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What? Can you speak in English? Where in the Bible does it say that no one seeks God? John 4:23 says, "The time is coming when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, and that time is here already. You see, the Father too is actively seeking such people to worship Him." In John 6:35, Jesus said "I am the bread that gives life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry . . . " There are many times in the Bible where it states we are to seek the Lord and also times where the Lord is seeking our faith.
2006-08-20 17:05:51 · answer #2 · answered by TJMiler 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
From what Book, chapter and verse did you pull this snippet? Usually, when you're trying to gain insight, you need to be a little more detailed so we can check the source of your misunderstanding.
Ahhh, started this quote wayyy out of context, ie, start in Romans 3:10, part of the Roman Road, rather than leaving out all except this phrase.
And, what it means is, at this time, the Israelites were sinning so badly that they were no longer seeking God.
2006-08-20 16:57:05 · answer #3 · answered by chuckufarley2a 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm not an armianist or a calvanist or any other type of "ist" but I would opine that what it means is that no one seeks the true God of Heaven since there are many people of different faiths who would tell you that they are seeking God. What they are really seeking is a "god" of their own making or imagination. They find a religion whose "god" appeals to them and are satisfied having a deity that fits in with their mind set of what God should be like.
Consider this passage and see how you can overcome this apparent contradiction of God commanding us to do what He says no one will do in light of what I have posted.
Isaiah 55:6 "Seek the LORD while he may be found; call upon him while he is near; 7 let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have compassion on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. 8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. 10 "For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven and do not return there but water the earth, making it bring forth and sprout, giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater, 11 so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.
2006-08-20 17:01:40 · answer #4 · answered by Martin S 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have never seen this quote what book is it in? Perhaps the context will help. Because man can never truly know God, one can only try. So we DO try, and by that we are "saved" as some put it.
2006-08-20 16:57:19 · answer #5 · answered by valoriousblue777 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The bible does not say that. Show the scripture that says that. Back your statement up with the word of God.
2006-08-20 17:00:01 · answer #6 · answered by Carol M 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Where in the bible does it say no one seeks god? Are you perhaps quoting revelations again?
2006-08-20 16:59:55 · answer #7 · answered by judy_r8 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
what does it mean when u read the Bible? that book has been changed so many times, that only the general idea remains unchanged. Read the Quran, the true words of Allah (SWT). they have never been changed and lead to the straight path
2006-08-20 16:56:13 · answer #8 · answered by somepaliguy27 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
indeed noone should be seeking God..he who is living in God's path and folowing His plan as best as he can will find Him without needing to seek for Him...
2006-08-20 16:57:46 · answer #9 · answered by aldamixxmasta 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It doesnt mean that you cant seek God..is just the most ppl chose not to......that what missionaries are for
2006-08-20 16:56:17 · answer #10 · answered by ap 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋