Why do so many people who believe in the theory of evolution not understand the basic Laws of Thermodynamics?

Question

which include the scientific fact that the natural world is moving toward disorder, not a higher order?

Answer 1

earth is not a closed system!

Answer 2

Actually, it seems that it is YOU that does not understand the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which basically applies to closed thermal-systems, such as heat engines. The earth is NOT a closed thermal system... it gets all the energy input it needs from the sun. Nor are biological organisms closed-thermal systems. If what you said was true, the implications would be far more profound that just evolution. Babies would not form in the womb. Trees would not form leaves. You would not have grown into a non-rational, gullible adult.

The contention that evolution violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is not a scientific fact... it is not even a misunderstanding... it is, in fact, a LIE, perpetrated by the Liars For Jesus (LFJ) contingent. Among their successful tactics is the promulgation of plausable-sounding pseudoscientific gibberish, for the purpose of misleading their (largely) scientifically ignorant constituency. The mere fact that you are parroting this outright LIE, as if it were a fact, merely demonstrated how effective their tactic is, and how gullible YOU are.

Answer 3

Umm...basic laws of thermodynamics don't state that the natural world is moving towards disorder-in fact it states that everything is moving towards a system in which everything relates to another on the lowest possible level-which is kind of like a higher order.

Answer 4

The laws of thermodynamics are, exhaustively:

Zeroth law: Thermodynamic equilibrium is transitive
First law: Energy is conserved.
Second law: Entropy never decreases in a closed system
Third law: Absolute zero is unattainable.

Now which one of these laws says anything about the world moving toward disorder? I'll give you a hint: entropy is not disorder.

Answer 5

If you think the world we live in today has less entropy than it would have if life had never developed here, then you clearly do not understand what entropy is.

The very existence of life is a means for the universe to gain increased entropy.

How can anyone possibly look at Earth and say that it contains less chaos and disorder than planets like Mars and Venus which we assume to be lifeless?

Answer 6

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Answer 7

That is absolutely true. So why hasn't everything broken down into complete chaos by now? Some power must be exerting an influence to put order back in the systems.
That rascal God. What a trickster. He must have put all those dinosaur and neanderthal bones all over the place just to fool us?
I'm not an atheist, but just like religion had to finally accept the
fact that the earth is not flat and the center of the universe and finally forgive Gallileo for teaching the truth, after over 300 years and several space flights around the planet, it must also evolve and accept other facts which were unknown 2,000 years ago.

Answer 8

then wouLdn't technoLogy be breaking the second Law of thermodynamics? they didn't have TV's 300 years ago.
the naturaL worLd onLy moves towards disorder in a cLosed system. The Earth is not a cLosed system, it is affected by it's surroundings, the Sun affects it.

Answer 9

Oh the old thermodymaniocs trick out of the creationsts hat ! ah go back and read the whole theories agaon and no you are wrong mutaions or evlouting of a spces is not random at atll in fact it is a highly sophisticated system of natural selction that works amaxingly well infact so well that even hans try as thy will cannot easly mess with it .
oh yeah try to remember the part about open and closed systems in your whole theremodynaics laws card . um a but of selective reading ?
Thsi isa old one that te creationsatv pull out from time ot toime to try and sound sceintific and acedemic . It is refurteed d every time .
try som,ething new please . it is getting ot easy .

Answer 10

Open vs closed system is the standard response to your question.

In a closed system, entropy (disorder) increases. In an open system with energy flow, local entropy can decrease.

However, in general, energy flow causes increased disorder (e.g., think of a tornado going through a town).

In specific situations (particuarly under intelligent design), energy flow can increase order...

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Speaking of evolution...It is relevant to note that...

Darwinism is ultimately a statement of Atheist Faith.

As Evolutionist Stephen J. Gould has stated, evolutionists "know" that Evolution has occurred; however, there is controversy about the mechanisms involved. In other words, evolutionists are arguing and fighting about the mechanisms involved.

This is code-speak for the fact that evolutionists "believe" that evolution happened without God, but they dont really know exactly how. They have a bunch of conjectures and speculations, but they do not have empirical proof of atheistic macro*evolution.

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There is no evidence that proves Atheistic MacroEvolution (without Intelligent Design)...

I used to believe in Evolution. However, over a period of time I have grown skeptical of the claims of Macro*Evolution... this is largely due to the weakness of the evidence for Macro*Evolution, and the fact that the evidence, rationally interpreted does not support the overarching claims made by Macro*Evolutionists...

For scientific and intellectual critiques of evolution, see http://www.godsci.org/gsi/apol/evo/00.html .

Is Evolution a FACT? Not really -- not in the macro*evolutionary sense. See http://www.godsci.org/gsi/apol/evo/evofaq2.html for relevant discussion.


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I find that the vast majority of people who believe in evolution, do so by faith and authority.

Faith -- because atheistic macro*evolution is a faith; and Authority -- because they believe in the word of "experts" in the field, rather than truly understanding the evidence themselves.

Cordially,
John

Answer 11

Evolution does not claim order but random natural selection; what turns out to work out best survives. It is not preordained as a plan, but random mutations that either serve to strengthen or weaken a species i.e the strong survive. It is a common misconception you hold, I once thought the same thing but found out I was mistaken.