What would you say if I told you the Catholic "Hail Mary" comes from the Bible? What if I said so to does the "Magnificant" another prayer? I am not trying to persuade you to pray these prayers or to honor her as we do but to clear up a misconception.
2006-08-19 08:36:09 · 22 answers · asked by Debra M. Wishing Peace To All 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Gospel of Luke 1:28 "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee". The second is from the greeting given to Mary by her cousin Elizabeth in Luke 1:42 "Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb", and a reinforcement of basic Christian belief in the real divinity and real humanity of Jesus. The closing petition "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen." is stated by the official "Catechism of the Council of Trent" to have been "framed by the Church itself" [1].
2006-08-19 08:43:30 · update #1
We do talk/pray to Jesus. Did you not know that it was at Marys prompting that Christ performed His first miracle? Do not sons love and respect their mothers wishes?
2006-08-19 09:05:35 · update #2
Let me also add that we all owe Mary respect and gratittude. She chose to accept God's will at great personal cost.
2006-08-19 09:07:19 · update #3
Go Debra go!
And for those who don't realize it, the Hail Mary is based mostly on Luke 1:28, "And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, [thou that art] highly favoured, the Lord [is] with thee: blessed [art] thou among women."
The first words as they were originally written are 'Chaire, Kecharitomene' which literally means 'Hail, [person who] has been and still is bestowed with grace'
To compare notes with the actual prayer:
Hail Mary, full of grace
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou amonst women.
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
Holy Mary, mother of God,
Pray for us sinners now
And at the hour of death.
Amen.
The first four lines are pretty much straight from the Bible, and the rest is just asking her to pray for us.
2006-08-19 08:41:51 · answer #1 · answered by Caritas 6 · 2⤊ 5⤋
You can claim any parts of many prayers come from the bible but not all as you said yourself when you said the end came from the council of Trent. The Lord's Prayer also comes from the bible but you do not see us leave any out or add to it as the Catholic church does. And where in the bible does it say you should ever pray to anyone but God to ask for anything? Why would you want to pray to a dead person to pray for you when you can go direct to the top and pray to the Main Man Himself? Why pray to dead saints so they will pray for you when you can just bypass all that and go to God? The saints are not going to hear you and they certainly cannot hear you. See Eccl. 9:5-6. Many places it says that the dead do not know anything, their thoughts perish, they have no more anything to do under the sun, will not return to their house, etc. So why pray to someone that can't hear you, that can't pray for you, and is not in Heaven? Show me one place it says that the dead are in Heaven. It just is not there. There is one mediator between God and man, Christ Jesus. Not the saints or Mary or anyone else but Jesus. Just because a greeting was used thousands of years ago does not make it into a prayer that you need to repeat.
2006-08-19 08:52:59 · answer #2 · answered by ramall1to 5 · 4⤊ 0⤋
The angel greeted Mary saying, hail Mary. It was not to be made into some sort of prayer.
The magnificant was Mary's praise to God when she was with her cousin Elizabeth. Mary was praising God for what He was doing, bringing forth the savior.
Neither of these things in the bible were meant to be turned into any sort of repetitive prayer that people just say.
And dear, God has no mother. Mary was the earthly mother of Jesus.
2006-08-19 08:43:39 · answer #3 · answered by christian_lady_2001 5 · 5⤊ 2⤋
That is fine but my question is why ask her to pray for us. While you're doing your Hail Marys you could be genuinely talking to God and drawing closer to him. Obviously Mary was blessed, I'm not taking anything away from her because she gave birth to our Lord and Savior but I'd rather talk to Jesus. He's the One who provides my salvation and forgiveness, not Mary.
2006-08-19 09:03:28 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
The Magnificat comes from the Gospel of Luke - Lk 1:46-55 IT is also known as the canticle (song) of Mary.
The Hail Mary is also drawn from the Gospel of Luke - Lk 1:42-45 (Lk 1:39-45 in context)
2006-08-19 08:45:35 · answer #5 · answered by Church Music Girl 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Godbless you Cathlics but I think you interpret scripture in the wrong way. Scripture should interpret scripture.
When Mary the mother of Jesus came to Jesus when he was teaching the crowd, the desciples said "your mothers here" Jesus replied here are my mothers, my brothers and my sisters. Mary was a normal average everyday person who God decided to bless. She was no deity.
Jesus also says do not call anyone on earth Father for you have one father in heaven. And finally Jesus is the only one able to forgive sins and see into peoples hearts, no preacher or father is able to do so. All power and authority is given to him, so keep your eyes on him and not on your religion.
Take the word of God at His word.
Paul
You are free to email me xangopbh@yahoo.co.uk
2006-08-19 08:47:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 0⤋
psalms 150:6 says let everything that has breath praise the lord. mary is not the lord, so why pray to her. The word "hail" in hail mary, means praise, and no where in the biblie does it say to pray to or prasie mary. if you find it pls let me know. luke 1:46 says my soul maginfies the lord, Mary is praising God, not God prasing mary.
2006-08-19 08:48:11 · answer #7 · answered by Han_dang 4 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The biblical record shows that Mary was a great woman. No one can deny that. however I do not see any indication that we are to pray to her. We can pray directly to Jesus. I also do not see anything that would lead to my thinking that she could hear our prayers. Jesus can but he is God, so it makes sense that he would hear us. We are also told to pray to the Father and that the Holy Spirit intercedes for us. But I respectfully and with love must disagree about the ability of Mary to intercede for us.
2006-08-19 09:52:42 · answer #8 · answered by unicorn 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
In the book of Luke, when the Angel Gabriel greeted Mary he said "Hail favored one, The Lord is with you" (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you - the first line of the Hail Mary) then when Mary goes to visit her cousin Elizabeth (the mother of John the Baptist). The first chapter of Luke goes on to show how Elizabeth greeted Mary and how the child (John the Baptist) in her womb (Elizabeth's), lept for joy (verse 41-45) Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. Hence the second line of the Hail Mary "Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of they womb, Jesus." Then Mary said (verse 46- 56) "My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord, my spirit rejoices in God my savior. For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness, behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed. The Mighty One has done great things for me and holy is his name. His mercy is from age to age to those who fear him.....etc....continues on to verse 56 and this is the Magnificat we Catholics pray...straight from scripture.
Julia is right, this is right from scripture.
I just want to add one thing: devotion to Mary is not worship and Mary is very Christocentric and leads all souls to Christ. The wedding feast of Cana shows this where Mary said to the waiters "Do whatever He tells you" and this is her message to us today as well. Follow her son Jesus.
2006-08-19 08:59:14 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
First, its a little silly of you to think you can clear this up on Yahoo Answers.
Second, I'm a non-Catholic. But I have no problem with people speaking to The Virgin Mary. She's Jesus' Mom. Any inside track anyone can get to get Him to be more involved with this planet, the better.
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2006-08-19 08:47:15 · answer #10 · answered by robabard 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋