I've never asked a question here before. I'm almost level 5 with almost 5,000 points and I'm squandering a few because of an e-mail sent to me from one answer I obviously gave which leads me to this theory.
People here site Science as a Relgion and Darwing as their great God, despite the fact that Sciences accepts the Evolution of Man from Monkey as only a THEORY not a matter of FACT, at least the current time.
Yet, believes, some of whom are Atheists and many are Agnostics, make citations as if DARWIN's THEORY was fact.
Darwin is taught in the Schools. The relgion of Schools is Science. Is Pluto a planet or not! This changes from decade to decade.
Are children NOT getting the MARK of the BEAST. What is a monkey. An animal. A wild beast. Who says we come form money, Charles Darwin.
Are we looking in the wrong direction? One day will someone come up with proof for Darwin and will it have a number associated like 666?
Darwin is NOT FACT, remember that!
2006-08-19
06:33:47
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I write terrible first drafts. No one here every critise a writer of questions, you can't edit them after you post them, bummer! There were some flaw and I hope you see through them! They are typos and I do this all the time, despite the fact I've been published in print (In Sky and Telescope Magazine first) since 1967, but I usually wait a week or two and re-write things 10 times.
No editing of questions! Bummer!
2006-08-19
06:38:00 ·
update #1
To #1, Good point, I'll have to look into that. That's someone with something to add
To the Muslim, MONKEY'S CREATED YOU NOT ALLAH!
You're not serious! Muslims ACCEPT THAT! Muslims ACCEPT THAT MONKEYS not ALLAH, created them!
Woooow! That's a hot new flash I've never really considered. I can quote you to the President or IRan and the Ayatollah, right!
I believe that things EVOLVE, but me from monkey. I don't even want to consider that!
I mean even the sect in India that believes in reincarnation does say you come from a cat, you just turn into one.
That, maybe, is plausable!
And I won't insult the CAT that comes from me as stating that I am responsible for what it is! It did not EVOLVE from me, the will of what is made it that way.
2006-08-19
06:46:19 ·
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I understand theories quite well.
It's others HERE that don't. They say:
Darwin is right! It's a fact don't you know that!
No I don't.
It's not a fact.
It's a theory.
But when PEOPLE embrace it as fact and based their lives on it, it becomes a religion and Darwin is the Great God or Prophet.
And to the 666 guy, good for you, at least you know where it's at!
2006-08-19
06:50:04 ·
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Point well taken, The Anti-Christ is said to be a what, an Assyrian.
Gay, that's new one.
The ANTI-CHRIST will be GAY!
I don't recall reading that part or hearing it from a legitimate minister.
Did everyone hear that and I didn't say it.
The Anti-Christ is GAY!
I also said Prophet. Who knows what will happen in 200, 300, 500 years. Maybe some Smart Middle Eastern guy will make the 666 Connection and maybe it will be with Darwin.
It's NO more fantastic than to beleive it's Bush or the head of the UN, who is somewhat of Middle Eastern Disent. Same say he's the Anti-Christ.
I don't know for sure, I'm just throwing Darwin out there because all the "anti" religious people often INVOKE his name!
That IS a FACT. Go read the "anti" posts and 75% of them are citations of Science, Big Bang and Darwin.
And most of them say this stuff is FACT.
2006-08-19
06:54:12 ·
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Dr. Sigmud Freud was once considered an amazing man and he single handedly BUILT the modern professioni of Psychiatry, but the's a witch Doctor in today's world, despite the fact I think some of his concepts, theoritical as they are, are not bad.
Totem and Taboo.
Id, Ego, Super Ego and Libido
All of that is considered rubish by today's scientists.
One day Darwin may be rubbish.
And Jesus is NOT an amazing man?
Moses is NOT an amazing man?
2006-08-19
06:57:51 ·
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I didn't cast a judgement I asked a question!
And I stated facts in support of the Thesis!
Then all of YOU get to pass judgement!
2006-08-19
07:07:18 ·
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We have no FACTS to support Big Bang. There has never been a record instance of it nor has it been reproduced in the lab.
We also can't support the concept that the MASS of the UNIVERSE is constant and always was.
That's Gensis, plain and simple.
God is, God Was, God will be forever.
Mass was always there. Take it on faith.
Science doesn't even try to explain where the mass came from.
The Laws make it impossible.
Conservation of mass and enegery (used to be Conservation of Matter in the Newtonian world of the 1800s).
Many are not addressing my Thesis.
Revelations states there will be a false prophet and a fight between these two factions.
Science and Darwin fall within that explaination.
Theoritical science is taught in schools EXCLUSIVELY. Not one bit of Zen, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Christian "theories" on how things got started are ALLOWED.
Kids are NOT given a choice.
THey get spoon feed Big Bang and DARWIN and nothing else.
2006-08-19
07:13:37 ·
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Has no one heard of Equal time.
The Democrats get it after Bush addresses the nation.
I'm not saying Just creationism. I'm saying that there are a MULTITUDE of philosophies out there that are NOT getting equal time with Darwin.
Not even UN Equal. Ok. LEt's spend 10 minutes telling them a little of each BELIEF system and then 30 minutes on Darwin.
I can live with that!
Then they know OTHER CONCEPTS exist and can use their little brains to go further into stuides and MAKE their own minds up.
If they want to Embrace DARWIN after exploring everything else, cool!
But you defeat then when you present ONE SIDE of the issue. And then people run off and think "its fer real!"
2006-08-19
07:19:15 ·
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The Scopes trial was a staged event by the way.
The ACLU does it right up to today.
The press was called in advance.
The teacher was hand picked and knew he'd face problems.
They probably even already had Darrow as counsil.
And it quite possibly was a legitmate need, because only Christian Creationism was taught and I'm not necessarily for that.
I'm a Christian, but I think EVERYONE should draw their own conclusions.
God doesn't wanted Brainwashed converts, he wants people who walk into it fully aware of what they do.
It's just as WRONG to teach Chritisan Creationism as the ONLY thing as it is to teach Darwinism!
I said, ALL views.
I said Darwin is the Anti because he took Jesus and God's place in the schools as the ONLY.
Therefore Darwin is the ANTI to years of God and Jesus.
We do not teach Hindu or Zen beliefs in schools. We should.
Imagine a college of Astronomy ONLY teaching BIG BANG, NO steady state!
Is that cool?
2006-08-19
07:25:47 ·
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To Chris the scientist. Yes you are basically right.
But my point is getting lost.
DARWIN is ALL that is taught and ONE DAY Darwin may be bunk.
How are kids going to feel then, when school and science lets them down and their kids think of them as fools for talking like that!
That is NO different then how religion is viewed.
You're a fool for talking like that.
A positron negates an electron.
It IS an Anti-Particle. An Anti-Electron.
Darwin Negates Creationism.
Darwin is the Anti-God.
Creationism says God created the world.
Darwin said it was evolution of the species.
Darwin, therefore, is the Anit-God.
Darwin's JOB is to wipe out relgion.
Both can't be right.
Both can't exist in the same point of time and space without obliterating each other.
Are you saying Darwin and God can peacefully co-exist!
Now, no offense, Chris, go shake up a test tube full of amino acids and don't come back until you have a virus or amoeba to show us!
2006-08-19
07:33:25 ·
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OK I apologize to Monkeys. You're right, I'm prejudice and you caught me.
I DID think Chimps were Monkeys!
Big mistake on my part.
But, it sounds better inprint to call believers a Monkey's Nephew -- that's a play on an over used Cliche.
Once, again, my Apoligies to Monkeys, I didn't mean to mix you in with all those Apes!
2006-08-19
07:57:32 ·
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Mr Mister
Another good point. I hope it'st true.
I did read part of the Origin of the Speices from my Harvard Classics collection, but like Relativity and REvlations it gave me a headache.
Einstein, who can't explain relativity very well to non physicist, once said if you can't expalin it to granny u can't expalin it very well!
Einstein also said God Doesn't Play Craps!
Darwin can't be responsible if Humans turn him into a God or Prophet.
It's the fault of the School System.
But when People think Darwin is right, be becomes the Anti-God, whether Darwin likes it or not!
That's the problem, DARWIN is being turned into an Anti-Religion tool.
Darwin is a Positron!
Darwin is an Anti-Particle.
That is the WHOLE thesis.
The Origin of the Spieces becomes the NEW Holy Bible and the Bible becomes an archaiac work of fiction relgated to the back shelves ane ONLY to be read by those 18 or older by law!
It meets the test of the Thesis.
2006-08-19
08:08:37 ·
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He is neither of the things that you propose, but his work was foreseen by Peter.
"Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." (2 Peter 3:3-7 KJV)
2006-08-21 11:25:37
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answered by dee 4
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The frequency with which this topic appears on Yahoo makes me question the effectiveness of our public education system. Evidently we are graduating students who have never been exposed to evolution and the evidence that supports it. Nor have these same graduates had enough intellectual curiosity to explore the subject on their own.
To quote Stephen Jay Gould: "Well, evolution IS a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered."
The evidence (i.e. facts) for evolution is overwhelming. It doesn't take much googling to discover them. Why then do so many Americans challenge Darwin? Why do they find him threatening?
I think the answer may be threefold:
1. There is a misconception that Darwin claimed we evolved from monkeys, which a lot of people find insulting and demeaning. In fact he claimed no such thing. A little background reading would demonstrate that humans and primates had a common ancestor.
2. It's comforting to think that we humans are the epitome of creation - just as at one time it was comforting to think that the earth was the center of the universe, and the sun revolved around us. Of course, science has proved both of these contentions untrue.
3. Many fundamentalist Christians take literally the creation story in Genesis. It's impossible to argue with anyone who clings to this belief. But the story is riddled with problems. How did Adam and Eve propagate the world? Their children would have had to marry each other...yet we are also told that their sons found brides elsewhere. Hmmm.
But you see, it is possible to read this story as a metaphor, or parable, if you will. God could just as easily have sparked life into some primitive collection of cells, knowing that eventually this organism would evolve into human beings. Why not?
You say, "Darwin is NOT FACT, remember that!" Actually, Darwin was a man. Evolution is a fact. That anyone living 75 years afer the Scopes trial could still question that is preposterous.
2006-08-19 07:14:48
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answered by keepsondancing 5
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I think you are confused about the scientific method. Science creates theories to describe the world and from these theories make precitions which are then tested. If the theories are wrong they pretty soon get rejected or replaced. So Newton's laws of motion have proved very usable for everyday phenomena but breakdown when cosnidering black holes. You can say the theory has limited applicability or is wrong but that does not stop it being a very useful model of the world for what we see around us everyday.
Darwins theory of Evolution has had ,ore than a century of testing and has been verified so often Scientists are pretty sure it is correct. Maybe there is some subtle place it needs slight modification, maybe there is black hole in the field of biology, but that still doesn't invaildate it as a very useful theory for almost everything we see around us in the world of agriculture and medicine.
I trained as a scientist and work as an engineer. I don't see Science as religion but as a set of very useful tools with which to get things done. The theory of evolution is just that a theory that helps us better manage in this world. It's truth is demonstrated but it's amazing ability to explain teh world we see around us..
Calling Pluto a planet or not is not an issue about the scientific science it is simply a definition.
The only theories in religion that are testable are those made for the apocalypse. And despite probably hundereds of predictions throughout history and candidates for the Anti-Christ, none have yet been proven true.
Charles Darwin was not a false prophet he was a sincere and religious English Vicar who enjoyed botany and geology and carefully observed what he saw.
According to the Book of Revelation the AntiChrist during teh times of tribulation just before the return of Christ. Charles Darwin died in 1882 and as the world is still around he can't be the Anti-Christ.
The view taken by increasing numbers of biblical scholars is that the Book of Revelation refers to events that happened in the 1st century AD and what written in highly symbolic and coded terms so that only initiates could understand. Rome here being the seven headed dragon, after the seven hills or Rome.
Sure Darwin's theory of Evolution is not fact just as the Highway Code is not fact, but it is the best tool out there and no one researching in the biological fields can do good work without it.
2006-08-19 07:19:40
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answered by Chris C 2
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You have made so many false assumptions in your question and statement that I don't even know WHERE to begin.
First off:
1) Man did not evolve from "monkeys". Study the phylogeny trees, if you even know what they are.
2) Scientific theory is a lot different than social type theories. Scientific theory is a systematic and formalized expression of all previous observations that is predictive, logical and testable. It can be argued that 'creationism' isn't even a theory by scientific concerns. Scientific theory is based on evidence, period.
3) Thankfully for you and me, the State (Judicial Branch) does not carry your mentality. Which is that? That a lack of evidence is proof that it is false. That is highly irrational. I could carry that same logic and attack your beliefs. There is no proof of God, that he created man from dirt only 8,000 years ago. You have absolutely no evidence, yet you believe whole heartedly, refuting evidence with imagination.
4) Darwin NEVER set out to disprove God. God has nothing to do with evolution, whether you accept it or not. Darwin simply didn't close his reasoning and keep his brilliant mind quiet for fear of the Church and their intrepretations of their scriptures. Rather, Darwin was willing to call the Churches idea of the origin of species into question by scientific evidence. Even Pope John Paul II said "Evolution is FACT". Does that mean John Paul was an atheist?! Hardly! He simply knew that the church may need revision work in their Genesis account, not taking it so literal (I.E. 6 days of creation).
I personally would never say evolution is FACT simply because of the observation requirements in science. Just like I would say gravity is a theory, likewise with magnetism.
One last thing.
Atleast evolution is based on SOMETHING.
What is Creationism based on? FAITH.
Remember that.
Be good.
2006-08-19 07:04:21
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answered by Anonymous
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Darwin wasn't a scientist and never set foot in a laboratory.
He was a theorist and a lousy one at that.
People fiercely protect Darwinism, so they may fiercely defend their heathenism.
P.S. Gravity is empirical science, because it can be proven. Look up the word empirical, and ask a science teacher after they rant about the evolution theory whether its empirical science or science.
Cause guess what, the definition of the word "science" has changed now that there is so much propaganda about evolution.
the only true form of evolution is micro-evolution, which should be called variety, like a white flower can turn pink.
The whole bases of apes into humans is founded on macro-evolution, which never was proven that an ape or a frog or a bird will ever produce anything out of its own species.
there are mutations, but that is just scrambled up info from already existing chromosomes, not new ones which macro-evolution needs for it to be real.
PSS. Evolution is a Bad religion. You would need a lot more faith to believe a dot exploded then rock soup over millions of years created everything, (with no proof). then to believe God an all powerful being must have created us and everything around us so we could thrive on it and govern it.
Look around you, there is obviously a Creator.
God the Creator, not Darwins "creator". with a lower case c,
2006-08-19 06:45:20
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answered by Pricklyash 2
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Darwin is not a god nor is science a religion. Christians love to say crap like that to get each other all riled up but the only ones who say science is a religion and that Darwin is a god are the Christians. Go figure.
Darwin was a man of science and his theory (defined as "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; 'theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses'; 'true in fact and theory'") is widely accepted in the scientific world as truth.
Unlike your good book, science is constantly changing as the human race grows, learns and changes. The world doesn't change, our ability to understand it and test it is what changes.
As for Darwin and his doubts, he never tried to say he didn't have doubts. His doubts, along with his statements refuting most of his down doubts, were published in chapter titled, "The Difficulties on Theory."
In schools, we must attempt to teach facts and that is what science does. It presents the facts as we know them at that time. As differences are found, it is hoped that the materials presented will be changed as well. Schools should not present mythology and unsubstantiated religious theories (defined as "An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture") as fact.
2006-08-19 06:51:40
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answered by Rogue Scrapbooker 6
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Darwin was religious early in life, while coming up with the Theory of Evolution. Indeed, in The Origin of Species, he suggests that Evolution acted upon life which was created by God.
Today, I don't know anyone who views Darwin religiously or as a prophet.
Your biggest problem is you don't really understand what the terms "theory" and "fact" mean. I suggest reading the link below.
2006-08-19 06:45:36
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answered by Zhimbo 4
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Christianity is a FAITH, not a fact. Darwin's theory of evolution is just that a theory, not yet proven to fact tho the fossil records seem to agree more with it than any other. So separate fact from fiction, faith is a belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. Darwin's theory is based on facts, tho facts not yet wholly proven.
2006-08-19 06:52:35
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answered by hedddon 5
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Well, he's not the False Prophet or the Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ has certain specifications - like he'll be from the Middle East & be gay etc . . .
Plus, the Anti-Christ will be ALIVE, not dead like Darwin. The Anti-Christ will lead the world during the 7 year Tribulation - so yeah, he's definitely not dead.
And I'm thinkin' the False Prophet will be the Pope.
Darwin even took back that ridiculous evolution theory later in life - so all you evolutionists can just give it up.
People don't want to admit sometimes that there IS a God, and that we are created from him because they don't like the idea of being held accountable for what they do.
2006-08-19 06:50:00
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answered by fender bender 2
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Darwin was, as far as I know, a great believer, and what you might call a good Christian! He himself was not always sure if his theory is right.
I personally believe that the antichrist will be the most beautifull thing you have ever seen - it's the only way that evil could make almost all people love it.
The Darwin theory just makes too many noise to be so important.
2006-08-19 06:42:27
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answered by Uros I 4
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