What makes you think Abraham is Arab?
Don't you know the Book of Genesis in the Bible?
For a Muslim you are very ignorant.
There were no Jews and Arabs in the time of Abraham.
Abraham is the father of both the Jewish and Arab peoples.
Abraham and his wife Sarah had a son Isaac.
Abraham and Hagar, the Egyptian handmaiden (servant) of Sarah had a son Ishmael (Ismail).
Sarah, Isaac and his wife Rebecca are the ancestors of the Jewish people.
Hagar and Ishmael are ancestors of the Arab people.
Ishmael's life is described in the Book of Genesis chapters 16 and further. In Genesis 16 Sarah gives Abraham her maid-servant Hagar so that he can have a son of his own by using her maid-servant as a birth mother, since Sarah believed that God had kept her from having children (that is Sarah thought she was barren) (16:2).
Hagar became pregnant and despised Sarah, who then out of anger expelled Hagar from Abraham's home in retaliation. Hagar fled from Sarah and ran into the wilderness, where an angel appeared to her.
The angel of the Lord told Hagar to return, saying:
"I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."
"You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery."
"He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers." (NIV, Genesis 16)
So Hagar returned to Abraham's house, and had a son whom she named Ishmael. Fourteen years later, Abraham's wife Sarah, herself became pregnant with his son, Isaac.
When Ishmael was about 16 years old, he angered Sarah, and she asked Abraham to expel him and his mother:
"Isaac grew, and on the day he was weaned Abraham held a great feast. But Sarah saw that Ishmael was mocking Isaac, and she said to Abraham "Get rid of that slave woman and her son, for that slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with my son Isaac."." (NIV, Genesis 21:8-10)
The matter distressed Abraham greatly because it concerned his son, Ishmael. While Abraham was very uneasy over the whole thing, he finally gave in to his wife's request when God told him that He would take care of Ishmael.
God said to him, "Do not be so distressed about the boy and your maidservant. Listen to whatever Sarah tells you, because it is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned. I will make the son of the maidservant into a nation also, because he is your offspring." (NIV, Genesis 21:11-13)
Hagar, with her son, wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba, and when reduced to great distress, a voice from heaven said "What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation." (Genesis 21)
They lived in the wilderness of Paran, where Hagar's son became an expert in archery. His mother married him to an Egyptian woman.
God promised Abraham:
Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year." (Genesis 17)
I think that is why the Arabs and Muslims have always been jealous of Israel, because G-d made his Holy Covenant with Isaac and Israel and not Ishmael and the Arabs.
This is in the Torah, the original Bible. I don't know if the Koran says this too, but this is the original word of G-d.
As you have said Abraham originally dwelt in Iraq, but Abraham, Sarah and baby Isaac migrated to Israel after G-d gave them his Covenant. Abraham and Sarah along with Isaac and Rebecca are buried in Hebron in Israel where they went to live.
Whereas Hagar and Ishmael went to Mecca from Iraq.
The land of Israel was given to Isaac and Rebecca and all their descendents as part of the Covenant of G-d.
The Arabs cannot accept this even though G-d blessed Ishmael and gave him Arabia and Iraq.
But I am NOT saying Arabs don't have the right to live in Palestine.
There is your answer, brother.
PS Only some people here seem to understand this MyStIcTrE3, BrotherMichael, Scane and Grandreal. As Grandreal says this was also reaffirmed in the Covenant of Moses.
PPS It seems that some of these prophecies have come chillingly true: Ishmael's descendants - the Arabs - are indeed too numerous to count.
And Ishmael's (the Arabs) hand is indeed against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he (the Arabs) live in hostility toward all their brothers.
SHALOM. SALEM. PEACE.
2006-08-20 16:14:10
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answered by Hebrew Hammer 3
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The matter is very simple,
The Bible states in Genesis that Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. All three books have this story, as it is a story. There is no archaelogical proof for this one. The qu'ran, the Bible and the Torah have the strory of sacrifice. Now Christians and Jews agree that Isaac was to be sacrificed.The Qu'ran says it was Ishmael.
If there is a conflict there what more can you ask about fighting over a land? Isaac or Ishmael it is still unproven. God promised Abrahaam ""I shall make of you a great nation and all the families of the earth shall bless themselves by you."
Abraham was a Gentile before making the covenant and his 2 son's are a symbolism for 2 Israel's.. The Fleshly Israel and the Heavenly Israel. Ishmael was concivd by flesh whereas Isaac by Spirit. I waon't get into details of this.
Now the land was actually promised but God doesn't work in supernatural ways when it comes to our plane of excistance. The land HAD to be conquered from the time of Moses and later Joshua. This could be a fulfillment of God's promise.
Muslims argue over the land as " Whoever deserves the land most shall own it", based on who prays most or who practises fasting most should own the Holy Land. The Jews argue over the Land as " God promised the land to us"
God is not a fool. He sees this conflict and is ashamed. He doesn't divide, he is a peaceful God not a death God. Religious wars have death as a result. God has never promised anything in return for death. If the two nations don't understand this in a religious way they will never change. Instead of fighting over God's promise they should try and ebrace the commonality of Abraham.
Israel is HOLY as God is Holy. God's nature doesn't allow Him to be with Sin. So you will not find Him in Israel. God is peace and as long as there is war God is not there. Try to understand this. God is wisdom, he created the whole universe in precise manner. Trust me, giving the land to a nation is an insignificant manner for Him. If that is really what He meant, He would have done it already. And maybe He actually did. Don't you think?
A man who talks in wisdom can lead thousands. The qu'ran has wisdom as well as the Torah. But think about this. Living in a world of belief without proof will surely lead you to a belief that makes sense and only based on what you learn to hear and accept. A blind world. 2 blind men fighting, when striking each other and falling, it will surely take a long time for them to reach each other to continue the fight till the death again. But the hatred will be there too for a very long time. This is exactly what is happening.
Even if the Land was Given, the human species will always be greedy, wanting more.. There would be other religious issues based on believes to cause a war.. So thank the human stupidity for that. Let there be only the Land conflict..
2006-08-19 03:38:32
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answered by Anonymous
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When GOD made the Covenant with Abraham there where no Jews or Arab. Now God was talking about the Abraham's descents. Jewish people were them.
2006-08-19 02:48:05
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answered by Kenneth G 6
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there became into continuously Jews in Palestine, and the different Arab international locations. Palestine became into like 60% Muslim 30% Christian 10% Jew continuously Then the zionist Nazi got here, and that they cleanse out each and every of the Muslim and Christian, and that they usher in ecu Jews to fill the inhabitants so Jewish would be larger ISRAEL on the instant isn't ISRAEL FROM THE BIBLE JEWS on the instant at the instant are not JEWS LIKE ABRAHAM And Holy Bible does not say something approximately New Israel, only approximately new Jerusalem. Jerusalem is Palestinian, Arab, has continuously been.
2016-10-02 06:59:25
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answered by ? 4
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God said he would give it to Abraham's descendants, then the heritage is said and clearly continued via Isaac and Jacob all the way until there was a nation. Then the became the Jewish people. He was in Iraq or a nearby location and God said, come I'll show you the place I'll give your kids and lead him to Israel so he did say Israel was "jew land."
2006-08-20 07:45:13
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answered by Scane 3
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Gen 26:3 Reside in this land, and I will be with you and bless you, for to you and to your seed I will give all these lands. And I will cause to rise My oath which I swore to your father Abraham.
The covenant of land, seed and blessing was passed from Abraham to his son, Isaac.
Gen 28:13 And, behold, Jehovah stood above it and said, I am Jehovah the God of your father Abraham, and the God of Isaac; the land on which you are lying, I will give it to you and to your seed.
Gen 28:14 And your seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and you shall spread to the west and to the east and to the north and to the south; and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you and in your Seed.
Gen 28:15 And, behold, I will be with you and will guard you in every place in which you may go, and will bring you back to this land; for I will not forsake you until I have surely done that which I have spoken to you.
That covenant was then passed on to Jacob, the father of the Jewish nation.
2006-08-19 02:58:05
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answered by BrotherMichael 6
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My dear friend,
This is the core of the Arab / Israeli conflict. Until you all decide to drop this ancient argument and just share the land, you are going to endlessly kill each other. Aren't you? No group over there is ever going to wipe out all of the other group. So why don't you all just stop it and forgive and share the land?
2006-08-19 02:45:42
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answered by Thom Thumb 6
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And in Scripture God talks about the end times when His people will be restored to their land..
2006-08-19 02:48:29
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answered by cheyenne 1
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Made a covenant with Moses.
Isa 60
21 Then will all your people be righteous
and they will possess the land forever.
I think that said it don't you?
2006-08-19 06:38:18
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answered by Grandreal 6
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You are not wrong. It never says this anywhere.
This is nonsense that borrows from a great confused mix of different ideas.
There is no logical basis that the Palestinians had to give up there homes based on a mythological reference that has been purposely misinterpreted to steal their heritage.
Love and blessings
don
2006-08-19 02:49:26
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answered by Anonymous
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