Was the Trinity only Two Gods in One before They/He decided to have a Son?

Question

And if There were Two Gods in One before the Trinity, Who or Which one of these Gods made this decision to have a son, only to make Three Gods in One as if Two were insufficient or incapable of managing the Heavens and the Earth?

Why would God present Himself as a Trinity that is unreasonable and have His son come down as a man, to be most reasonable and understanding, and why would the son of God need to have a mother when God should have been capable of creating anything by His Word?

I ask these questions because the son is reported to be a very reasonable man, according to St. Mark (Mark12:28-32), and you cannot reason a mystery, which can neither be understood nor explained, but the son quite reasonably explained the Only True God to Whom he prayed in John 17:3 as "One God: and there is none other but He. (Mark12:32)

The son spoke of One God, and the Oneness of God is that there is nothing to compare with Him or no partner with Him, being quite reasonable.

Answer 1

The Trinity is a bunch of nonsense. There is only one GOD. Only those who were tempted into idolatry and succumbed (or don't know any better) believe otherwise.

Answer 2

They were all there in the beginning...Genesis 1:1: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth". There is God.
The Holy Spirit in Genesis 1:2 The earth was without...And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters." The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.
Jesus is I Am! John 8:58. John 1:1-3 says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
Genesis 3:15 talks about Jesus being the seed of Abraham who will bruise Satan's head...Jesus is prophesied many times...He was in the furnace with he Hebrew boys in the third chapter of Daniel...3:24-25 Three men were cast into the furnace, but King Nebuchadnezzar saw four; the fourth whom He said was like the Son of God. At this time, Jesus was not born, yet He was still seen. The father, son, and the Holy spirit make up the trinity, three in one, and they always were.

Answer 3

"ONE" - SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LITERALLY

Mark 10:6-9 and John 14:20, 15:1-7, 17:11, 17:18-23, 17:26
There are many verses in the Bible that speak of Jesus and God as being "one".
But does this necessarily mean that Jesus is God? If you read the six selections above then you will see that we cannot take the word "one" so literally. If we do, then we are God, as Jesus said, "...they also may be one in us" and "...they may be one, even as we are one." What the Bible means when it says that Jesus is "one" with God is that he is extremely close to god, "as if" they are one. John 17:18-23 tells how we normal human beings can attain this "oneness" (or "closeness") with God by being "sanctified through the truth." Aside from this, neither the word "trinity" appears anywhere in the Bible nor any explanation of such a thing.

To believe in the Trinity goes against all of the teachings of Jesus, as well as the Bible. This is because the Trinity is a man-made doctrine that was drawn up several hundred years after Jesus. In this time period different interpretations of the Bible were causing serious debates among Christians. The various interpretations were, undoubtedly, due to human perversion of the original scriptures, poor preservation, and/or shoddy translations. One of the main things being questioned was the nature of God and Jesus. Was Jesus actually God, the son of God, or just a messenger? The Council of Nicea was formed in an attempt to settle this dispute, and the Nicea Creed (the Trinitarian doctrine) was subsequently hammered out.

Answer 4

All of your premises and questions are valid, but totally irrelevant.

Your Muslim beliefs don't apply to Christainity either.

God does whatever he wishes to do. He doesn't have to justify his actions to you, or anyone.

If you study Christian theology, you'll find all the answers to your questions.

The Trinity has no beginning and no end. The Trinity always was God in three persons. Co-eternal.

When a church council gets together to vote, it is usually on a matter that has long been understood and believed. The same was true of the Trinity.

The was only one dissenting vote on the matter.

There is room for mysteries in the church. It's impossible for finite human minds to propely understand infinite concepts, hence the mysteries. Just not too many.

Answer 5

First of all, Jesus always has been, because he is one manifestation of the Godhead, the eternal Word. The trinity is a plural unity which is known in the Hebrew where in Ezekiel a group of sticks were considered "one" (same Hebrew word is used to describe God's oneness...

Points to consider:

God said "Let us make man in our image" And so man was made a trinity himself; Body, Soul, and Spirit.

Christ "is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

He has always been around!

Answer 6

No there always was a trinity.

In John 1:1-3 it says "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him nothing was made that was made.
The Word meaning The Son(Jesus Christ)

Then in John 1:14 it says "And the word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten son of the Father, full of grace and truth

Answer 7

I think for those who believe in the Father the Son and the Wholly Ghost it goes like this...
The Father created the Earth and also his son Jesus, when Jesus died the Wholly Ghost was created! Just a guess. I believe in God and his son but the trinity is a bit confusing to me also! I don't think that are one that's for sure!

Answer 8

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

From the beginning of the book of John...can't recall the rest, but the Word became Jesus (it's all explained in there), so no, there were always three.

Answer 9

As a matter of fact, Jesus claimed to be EQUAL with God.
Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM (8:58). In Exodus 3:14, the name I AM was used by God to identify Himself to Moses.

Jesus also said,"I and my Father are one" (10:30) and "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him" (14:7).

Isaiah also prophesied of the coming of the God-Man.

Answer 10

God has always existed in His Triune life: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. 3 Divine Persons sharing1 Divine nature.
The teaching is not explicit in the Scriptures but it's there.
That's why, many protestants today have difficulty with this, since they have noone to authoritively interpret the Bible.
So some of them have denied this most central teaching of christians.
The one, holy catholic and apostolic church is preserving and guarding the faith entire and pure until Jesus returns.

Answer 11

1Corinthians 4:17 Now YHWH is The Spirit, and where the spirit of YHWH is, there is freedom.

Acts 2:17..God says,"I shall pour out some of MY SPIRIT upon every sort of flesh"..

Mark 12:29 Jesus answered: "The first is hear O Israel, YHWH our God is ONE YHWH/Jehovah,"

Matthew 3:17b ..a voice from the heavens that said: 'This is my Son, whom I have approved.'

There is ONE Almighty God, the Father, YHWH, The Spirit, The Holy Spirit..