During his preaching, Jesus had never called himself as God or Son-God. Now, look upon those people who consider Jesus as God or Son-God. They are, baselessly, blaming even those people who were present at the spot and knew that Jesus was not God or son-god. In other words, the people with the belief that Jesus is God or Son-god; are far more enemies of Jesus who tried to crucify him.
The people who say that Jesus is God or Son-God or in his guise, the Lord descended upon earth because of God’s love for humanity. They are, baselessly, blaming Jesus and the Lord of Jesus, the both. Jesus was born after Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Moses and the numerous other Prophets (peace & blessings of God be upon all of them). If he were the Son-God, then, all of the foregoing Prophets, must have been the believers of Trinity. But the case is not like that at all. None of them was the believer of Trinity, rather, none of them, had, even, heard about the name of Trinity, in their times. Hence, Trinity is nothing else but an invented and artificial concept which has no existence, even, during the time of Jesus. It is, therefore, a rootless concept from all accounts.
Jesus believed in the same God___ who was believed in__ by Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and all the prophets (peace &blessings of the LORD be upon all of them).
According to Jesus, God, the Holy One; is the Saviour of the Whole mankind. God is capable (be God glorified as God is) to relive off every infliction. None of the human beings is saviour beside God. Jesus, himself is also, not a saviour at all. The people who have chosen him as their saviour__ they have denied the Holy One___ who alone is the saviour of Jesus and whole mankind and the act of choosing Jesus as saviour__ is equal to hate the Holy One___ as it is clearly written in the old Testament:-
“I am the Lord your God. Worship no God but Me. Do not make for yourself images of anything in heavens or on earth or in the water under the earth. Do not bow down to any idol or worship it. Because I am the Lord your God and I tolerate no rivals. I bring punishment on those who hate me, on their descendants, down to third and fourth generation.”
(Exodus 20:1-5)
Now, ponder over the point that whosoever says that Jesus is God___ Holy Spirit is God___ Mary is God; has he not made an idol beside the One God? While nothing is there in the earth and heavens which could be considered in terms of the One God.
Beware please! A father is a father__ a mother is a mother___ and a son is a son__ and they all are the creatures of God. They cannot be considered as God___ as god is their Creator__ and nothing is like the Lord.
God is the Lord whose praises are recited by Israel. God is the originator of Torah (the law of Moses) including the Ten Commandments. And God has effected the 1st Commandment in the following words:-
“Worship no God but Me. Do not make for yourself images of anything in heaven or on earth or in the water under the earth.”
The Same God is the God of Jesus who was the God of Jacob and Moses (peace & blessings of God be upon all the three). The one God, beside whom, there is no God at all.
Jesus is not the inventor of Trinity. Nor he is presenting him as one of three Gods. Nor he is telling the One God as the third of the three gods. Instead, he is openly rejecting the concept of Trinity, which stands for the following three gods.
1.The God of Moses____ Jehovah
2.The word of God_____ Jesus
3.Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost.
The Trinity is a baseless concept in terms of the Verse under reference, the verse 3 of the prayer.
Torah says,
“Remember This! The Lord and the Lord alone___ is our God.
Love the Lord your god with all your heart,
With all your soul, and with all your strength.”
(Deut 6:4-5)
“Fear the Lord your God, worship only God,
and make your promises in God’s name alone.
Do not worship other gods,
Any of the gods of the people around you.
If you do worship other gods,
The Lord’s anger will come against you
Like fire and will destroy you completely,
Because the Lord your God,
Who is present with you, tolerates no rivals.”
(Deut 6:13-14-15)
“God is a great god and (only) one to be feared.’
(Deut 7:21)
All the messengers preached the same___ before man or idol worship. True followers of the messengers always followed the True religion and there was no difference of message of the messengers.
For example:
Jesus preached:-
1.HONOUR GOD
2.WORSHIP GOD
3.SERVE GOD
And today’s Christian leaders preach
1.Honour God and Jesus
2.Serve Jesus
3.Worship Jesus, Holy Ghost and God
Same is the case with Muslims. Muslims at the messengers’ time believed in God and followed and worshipped God only___ today’s Muslims follow the religion of their leader and call it Islam. Though, messenger Muhammad clearly mentioned the true religion is Islam:
TO BELIEVE IN ONE ALONE GOD___ TO PERFORM GOOD DEEDS___ TO BELIEVE IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT AFTER RESURRECTION.
On record is his word that Islam is to believe in God and to remain firm on that. So, even today we believe in the true religion of all nations__ according to the saying of all messengers.
Krishna Jee said to his father:-
‘Leave worship of all demi-gods and worship One, Alone God Only. Who is the Great Master and to serve whom is the duty of the slaves of God.’
God said to Moses:-
“I__AND I ALONE___AM GOD
AND ALL OTHER GODS ARE UNREAL.”
And in Quran God says:-
“I__AND I ALONE AM THE NOURISHER OF THE UNIVERSE.”
And, the word GOD means:-
1.G___ FOR GENERATOR OF THE UNIVERSE
2.O___ FOR ORGANIZER OF THE UNIVERSE AND COSMOS.
3.D___ FOR DESTROYER OF EVERYTHING.
All Holy Books tell us, that everything will be perished and nothing will be left but The One, Alone God to resurrect all whom God created for the judgement. All the messengers sent to mankind by the Great, AlMighty God__ died but the true religion of the God lives. So, to be the one nation of God:
BELIEVE IN ONE ALONE GOD___ PERFORM GOOD DEEDS___ BELIEVE IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT AFTER RESURRECTION.
2006-08-18 19:28:41
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answered by ibn adam 4
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The word "trinity" does not appear in the Bible, that is correct. However, the concept of the Trinity certainly does. For example,in Matthew 4: 13-17, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all present at the same place, at the same time.
2006-08-19 01:48:36
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answered by cool_breeze_2444 6
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what's the lie? It was written in the New Testament....and the trinity is said in the doctrines believed, as listed in the Nicene Creed and Apostles Creed.
'The term 'Trinity' is not a Biblical term, and we are not using Biblical language when we define what is expressed by it as the doctrine" (The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, article "Trinity," p. 3012).
Even theologians recognize that the Trinity is a creation of the fourth century, not the first!
God (the father), the duality of God is the son Jesus Christ (His only begotten son) who reincarnated, and the Holy Spirit is the God part that speaks all languages.
Probably the most notorious scripture used in times past as "proof" of a Trinity is I John 5:7. However, many theologians recognize that this scripture was added to the New Testament manuscripts probably as late as the eighth century A.D.
Then again in the 15th century it was written: "The only Greek MSS. [manuscripts], in any form which support the words, 'in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth
When Peter was asked at the end of his sermon what to do, he answered- "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost [Spirit]" (Acts 2:38).
Here again we can see why the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are mentioned in the "baptismal formula" in Matthew 28:19. God the Father is the One who brings us to repentance; Jesus Christ—God the Son—is the one who died that we can have our past sins forgiven; and the Holy Spirit is the power by which God the Father begets us.
At the last supper the Holy Ghost (Spirit) came down upon the apostles and made the apostlesspeak in tongues (different languages so as to preach different languages to be able to convert the non-believers).
To get around the problem of a plurality in the God-head (the trinity) , the Jewish community simply rejected Jesus. And to this day, Orthodox Jews will not accept Jesus' Messiahship
http://www.cornerstone1.org/trinity1.htm
Hopes this helps you to understand.
2006-08-19 02:32:15
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answered by sophieb 7
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Many of the New Testament letters start out with a reference to God the Father and Jesus the Christ. The "third" member of the trinity would seem to be the spirit of the church. The early church talked this over and formalized it by talking of the Trinity, so it can arguably be derived from the scriptures. I believe you are correct that there is no word that can be translated as the Trinity. But why would you characterize people trying to formulate a (then) new concept as lying?
2006-08-19 01:55:21
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answered by chilixa 6
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Neither does the word rapture. But they both exsist! Our english language won't ever change the truth. The Father, Son, & Holy Spirit do exsist. And what does the word trinity mean? There are 3 aren't there? yep
And let me say the trinity does exsist! Explain to me water. It can be a solid, liquid , and a gas, but it is still water. IT is the only substance that can do that. You also can't live with out it. And we believe water exsists in those three parts, & we know we can't live with out it, & we don't dispute the fact. It is the same with God.
2006-08-19 01:46:54
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answered by BlueSpider 3
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This is no surprise to me. No Christian I have ever met claimed that the word "trinity" ever appeared in the bible.
However, in the new testament, the disciples are urged to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
Pretty clear cut there. Trinity is just a big word that they teach in seminary school, like Transubstantiation, and "the passion of the Christ."
2006-08-19 01:53:43
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answered by ye_river_xiv 6
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Right...it's not in the Bible. The concept of the trinity was created basically to make sense of God, Jesus, and the holy spirit while still having one higher power. There is some biblical basis, but nothing obvious or concrete.
2006-08-19 01:49:22
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answered by laetusatheos 6
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NOT IN A SINGLE VERSE, check this out for yourself
in Gal 1:6-10 the bible tells us never ever to accept another doctrine right. ALL trinitarian belief dates back to AFTER THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN that means that it is not the original doctrine of the bible. that means that no one was ever baptized in the name of the father son and holy spirit until after the bible was written, it is not the word of God.
2006-08-19 01:49:54
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answered by smncoll 2
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Hi Sara
You are so very correct. Neither is the word rapture. Also the dead do not go to an ever burning hell. Check this out.
Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Did you grab that burn them up---they become ashes. Lets go to Revelation to verify.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Notice that, cast into fire second death. this will be the death after resurrection when all have been brought back to life and the judgement. is past.
Most of the American people have been told that Jesus was buried on Friday just prior to sun set and that he rose early Sunday morning. Count. That comes to 2 nights and one day. What did Jesus say about that?
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Notice Jesus said three days and three nights. Who do you believe the liars are?
Ok, Look, look, this is really good.
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Rule on this earth not up in heaven.
Yes you are correct, the churches are full of liars. That is their problem they have bibles which they can study
If you find that you are in need of more answers. e-mail cogbao@yahoo.com
You have a great and happy day.
2006-08-19 02:19:21
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answered by popeye 4
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Thank you I've been screaming all day
Trinnity, do you know how many preachers don't even believe it, and most converted to Islam!
Read and watch them telling their stories:
http://www.watchislam.com/videos/index.php?catid=18
How do you believe in trinity?!! can you tell me! How can 3 be one NEVER!!! impossible
No where in the Bible (new or old) you'll find the word "trinity" NOT once BUT it's mentioned on the Quran, and it says (Allah) "Tell them (the Christians) NOT to say trinity"
and guess what?
The word Bible is not in the Bible, but it's in the Quran many times.
2006-08-19 01:46:17
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answered by Not a happy bunny 4
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ROFLMAO
God is God
Christ is God
Holy Spirit is God
all 3 and in the bible.
Now call this group of 3 that is one a Frosty Shake.
you will not find that in the bible eather.
well if you don't like Frosty Shake for the name of the 3 of them that are one, you come up with one.
You will not find Car in the bible eather So!
2006-08-19 02:06:18
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answered by Grandreal 6
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