Warning for Creationists?

Question

Every time you believe something that is demonstrably untrue, you weaken your Message.

In order to become a Christian, one must eventually make a Leap of Faith. No one would make that leap after hearing your ridiculous science. Find another path on this one, boys.

The Creationist argument is making a mockery of the Church and good Christians everywhere. You are embarassing yourselves. At the same time, you are squandering all credibility on an issue that comes some forty books before the Message Christ commands you to spread.

There is no conspiracy against you, specifically. But a siege mentality has made you inflexible. You are wrong on this one. Aren't you content to be right about the one that matters.

Answer 1

You're my hero

Ignore angeltress, she's one of the looney christians that's making her religion look bad

Answer 2

I'm wondering which part of creationism is demonstrably untrue? Is that the world had a creator, or that the world is only 7000 years old?

Keep in mind that, as with any theoretical field, there are varying points of view within Creationism. I'm a Christian and a Creationist....but I believe that Evolution does exist and I don't believe that the world is only 7000 years old. I also don't believe that the bible ever states that the world has to be only 7000 years old. I believe the same things that Einstein did, "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind," and, "I have found no better expression than "religious" for confidence in the rational nature of reality, insofar as it is accessible to human reason. Whenever this feeling is absent, science degenerates into uninspired empiricism." Einstein was smarter than you and I. I dare say he understood the universe better than most, yet he believed in a creator. Thats good enough for me!

Having said that I don't disagree with you assertion that the most literal and extreme versions of Creationism does weaken the message. But these are the most extreme and closed minded members of the Creationist movement. Because we live in a sensationalized world we only ever hear about the crazies never the moderates.....Just like all the Arabs are fanatical, and all the professors are liberal and gay.....all the christians are judegemental and brainwashed. Don't believe the sensationalism.

By the way Gregory. I'm a trained Anthropologist...I know the fossil record and I still belive in Christ!

Answer 3

I think if Christians were concerned about embarrassing themselves they'd have quit a long time.
Jesus Christ himself said embarrassing things that alienated many of his disciples.

I try to avoid discussions about creationism and evolution because I'm not well informed enough about it. I'm a Christian but I'm more interested in looking at philosophical questions than scientific ones, that's just my preference.
I think the most important thing anyway for any Christian to focus on is what the Bible DOES say, not the areas it's gray on. And one thing it says is to Love God and Love other people. If we focused on those things, that'd benefit people generally a whole lot than arguing.
Also it is still arguable that creationism is 'demonstratably untrue.' It's frustrating to hear people make such claims when theories about the beginning of the world are continually evolving and changing shape.

Answer 4

Jesus shouldn't take you to the creation story, the story should take you to Jesus. Many people are stuck in an anti-deluvian realm. Leave the dogma, embrace the spirit. No leap nescessary, if you already know your own guilt. No leap required, if you have never judged God.

Your empathy deserves gratitude, so thanks for your concern about the Christian public image. By the way, you shouldn't worship images either...

Answer 5

Hmmmm... I think that people who preach evolution as being fact are deluding themselves... but... as a science it is even worse...

as a science it requires proof that just does not exist even though most evolutionists think that it does... if it DID exist.. it would be DECLARED FACT in all of the newspapers and there would be proof (not the junk research from the late 70's and early 80's... that was found to be falsified data)... and the proof would be easily reproduced... but it just has NOT HAPPENED!!

in fact, there is no proof that dinosaurs actually lived and died ... perhaps the earth was formed with the fossils in place to confuse men of science...

You can believe in dinosaurs because you can see fossils yet you cannot believe in Jesus Christ and there were eye witness accounts of his existence and acts...

You say that there is overwhelming evidence of evolution from natural selection.. etc.. but I say that there is NOT ONE experiment that has produced a creature of a new species from an old one...

and... if we are continually evolving... where are all of the intermediate creatures? wouldn't some of them have been created recently? We should see nearly a continuous spectrum of creatures from the beginning of creatures right up to man...

we don't see that.. and I believe it is because each species of creature was created by God.. they may seem similar to other creatures but if you were making a million paintings of an animal wouldn't they seem a bit similar after a while too? Perhaps the animals that Darwin saw in isolated spots were created just slightly different in those spots... they did not have to evolve someplace else and then move there.

Answer 6

Silly child.
Science is a wonderful thing. It changes, day by day, as new facts are discovered...well, it would, anyhow, if men of science were completely honest. Always, there are new and better answers to old questions, and always new and better ways to solve old problems.
We know more today than we knew yesterday, and we will know more tomorrow than we know today. Today's theory could very well be tomorrow's facts. Or not.
One thing is sure, science should not rely on faith, but on facts.
And that is how it should be. If a man of science is honest, he is ready to drop a path that is leading nowhere, and begin a new search. Perhaps we have reached the point where evolution is posing more questions than it is answering? Maybe it is time to look for some alternate theories?? Possibly it is time to abandon the notion that all life evolved from a couple of tiny cells, since it is not possible to prove this???
After all, no doctor would ever put leeches on his patients any more, would he?

I say, there is no conflict between God and science...only between arrogant theologians who think they know everything, and big-headed scientists who are sure they do.
God, Himself, has no problems with science whatsoever.
After all, God invented science.

Answer 7

Right, demonstrably untrue, but I didn't see an "demonstrations" backing your post up. So, at least we're down to a step of faith, not a leap. See, it wasn't that hard now, was it?

Answer 8

You are totally right!
It is said in the Veda's that one day of Krsna lasts milions of human years. If we take this as possible (and why should we not, after Einstein?) then everything can be explained - God created Man and Earth in seven days - His seven days, which would cover all the time evolution took.

Answer 9

That coming from a person who just doesn't get it. It is true and it is plausible. Creation is a foundational belief. Not a fake story like the "theory of the day" intelligent designers and ignorant scientists put forth.

Answer 10

Genesis 1 :1

Answer 11

Ive Said it Before and I'll Say it Again.,
If the Concept of God was Invented By Man.....
Cavemen or modern man-
It Dosent Matter-
The Concept of God was created by Men to Control Men!!
What part of that dont you understand?
study Your Science- Learn about Extinction,Fossils.
Go to a Museum of Natural History.Open Your Mind to the Possibilities.