Yahweh can’t be both omnibenevolent and omnipotent, because terrible events really do occur,?

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and this all-loving god hasn’t prevented them. This is known as the Problem of Evil (also known as theodicy), and I think that it is one of the biggest problems for those attempting to prove the existence of the Christian god. How can anybody explain the existence of a loving, all-powerful god, while also knowing the bad things that happen to all of us and the terrible things that happen to far too many?
The ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus summed it up well when he wrote these ideas:

Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can and does not want to.
If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent.
If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked.
If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?
And yet the idea of an all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-good god with free will won’t go away. So, here we are discussing this subject again. It’s good to remember that there have been over 2500 gods created by humankind. Monotheists don’t believe in all but one of them. Atheists don’t believe in just one more.
In fact, the existence of honest and kind Atheists is another proof that the Christian god, who demands belief, doesn’t exist. If this all-good god existed, it would want everybody to be saved — even Atheists. If this all-knowing god existed, it would know that Atheists just want real proof of its existence. If this god were all-powerful it would be able to give unambiguous proof of its existence. It hasn’t. Therefore this god doesn’t exist.

Answer 1

The problem of evil is the most sound arguement against Christianity and many other religions. The only ways around it are:
Change the definition of omnipotence
Change the definition of omniscience
Change the Definition of omnibenevolence
Resort to something illogical.

At the very least, if god is all powerful and all loving, then the world has to be as good as it could LOGICALLY be. So there's no "this world +1."

I actually came to the conclusion that Christians don't believe in an omnipotent and omniscient god. Moreover, an entity that is omnipotent and omniscient is only omnipotent in theory. Since for an entity to be omniscient, it must know everything (including what it is GOING to do), an omnipotent entity merely has the capability of doing what it is inevitably GOING to do. In short, god's motivations are determined ahead of time. In short, this proves determinism.

Here's a hypothetical. If you were to ask god "So, when is person A going to die" and god answered "Well, he's going to die at time B" and you asked him to not have person A die at time B, god would either 1.) Have been lying initially or 2.) be unable to prevent person A from dying at time B. Ultimately, there is no such thing as Omnipotent, omniscient, or omnibenevolent, because you'd think an all loving entity wouldn't lie, but he would logically have to, or else he would be forced into a situation where he would have to deny a request that he could grant.

Only a powerless entity can be all loving and all seeing.
Only a blind entity can be all powerful and all loving (and then you just get into the paradox where the entity makes itself all seeing)
Only an apathetic entity can be all powerful and all seeing. And if this is the third case, then the existence of god is largely irrelevant, hence why I'm an agnostic.

Edit: Like I said, Christians don't believe in an omnipotent entity. They say "Free will!" and that without it there wouldn't be as big of a payoff, but an omnipotent entity can do anything logically possible, and there's no reason it's logically impossible for the world to have free will without evil.

Answer 2

Yahweh of the bible is not God or the Divine, he is a demurge; a demi-god. Yahweh was created to show the those who believed in the power of the gods of Rome and of Egypt that there was a single stronger, more powerful, more ruthless god ... face it fear can a great motivator to have people behave in accordance the wishes of a few.

God doesn't need us to follow any one path to find our way back. There are many paths and we spend many lifetimes sorting our way through the fluff and distractions of this world until our perspectives change and enlightenment occurs.

An all-knowing, perfect God waits for us to awaken and return our thought back to that absolute or to waken to our truth.

Answer 3

As I have mentioned in response to several of your questions, Mr. Mojo, your problem resides in the Judeo-Christian conception of God. Get rid of it. It's no good and will only lead you to logical contradictions. The God of the Christians is not a thinking man's God.

Think outside the box, man.

Krinvanto Vishwam Aryam - Satyam Eva Jayate

Answer 4

Your question benefits an answer, because apparently to be truthful, even if it truly is in accordance to a worry-loose false impression of Christianity, that being that Christianity is a homogenous crew. it truly is not. Christians are persons, all from widely divergent backgrounds, all with widely divergent introductions to the Christ confirm. What we've in worry-loose is the Christ confirm, yet we've all come to him from considerably different beginnings. for this reason, each and every people sees the Christ (or Messiah) from a special attitude; hence, very few people see him precisely as others do. it truly is not that we see a special Christ confirm, yet that we seem on an analogous man or woman from different angles; therefore we do not get the very similar view. Now, in regard for your question: God is omnibenevolent, I agree, yet I propose that we evaluate benevolence from God's attitude (which isn't conceivable) particularly than our personal. Then: God is all-powerful; I propose that you seek for advice from Charles Hartshorne's e book, "Omnipotence and different Theological mistakes" earlier you anticipate that all of us imagine alike. i'm Christian. I actually trust that interior the start, God gave the human creatures not purely his personal photo, yet to boot dominion (lordship) over each and every residing creature. If it really is authentic, as i trust it truly is, God has given us very a lot of ability over the ecosystem in which we stay, and we can act in entire competition to God's benevolent personality if we opt for. we can use the ability given us via God for in spite of we opt for. this does not make it God's will that we and all introduction conflict through, yet our personal. God advises us to verify his way.

Answer 5

The problem with all this is rather simple. It is man's attempt to explain God. You are putting together two statements and suggesting the conclusion is true. No offense, but none of it is true. What is true is that God's ways are not our ways. He is, whether we understand it, like it, or not.

Answer 6

Go out and do something for this world and for people instead of blaming God for the troubles that men create.

Answer 7

sorry but I just read your question and not the rest. But i think that "he" is omnipotent but just gives usthe power of free will "he" could just make us his robots but the pay off would not be so great if we did good. he is omnibebevolent but we are not and it is humans who chose to do bad things not him who makes us do these bad things.

Answer 8

After all that dribble you forgot to ask the question

Answer 9

I'm sorry, is there an actual question there?

Answer 10

AMEN!