The body can be downplayed (It's still a wonderful Von Neumann machine) as a mobile support system for the brain, a vehicle if you want. Once the body dies, the brain stops functioning by massive system failure. What is experienced as near-death images are like these old tube TVs that reduce the image to a point when power is cut. Any thinking entity needs a support system, and any support system consumes energy. So immaterial and invisible is quite a challenge, until maybe we manage to get downloaded into a kind of magnetic SF self-sustaining system that is way... way ... way beyond our technology. Even then, something material will most certainly be required to anchor the fields. But a god... I don't think so... And you don't either!...
2006-08-18 14:47:14
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answered by Anonymous
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Ignosticism is the view that the question of the existence of God is meaningless because it has no verifiable (or testable) consequences and should therefore be ignored.
For most purposes, this view may be considered a form of agnosticism (sometimes referred to as "apathetic agnosticism"), and falls under the general category of nontheism. But it is a particular form. From this approach, the "I don't know" of agnosticism ceases to mean "I don't know if God exists or not" and becomes "I don't know what you're talking about when you talk about God." This underlies the form of the word: ignosticism, indicating an ignorance of what is meant by a claim of God's existence. Until this ignorance is cleared up, the ignostic is justified in ignoring putative arguments for or against.
According to ignostics, 'Does a god exist?' has the same logical status as 'What color is Saturday?'; they are both nonsensical, and thus have no meaningful answers.
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I know this isn't exactly an answer to the question you asked, but... I don't consider the idea of a deity "abstract" so much as I consider the idea of a deity "completely meaningless".
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P.S. I once argued with several of my friends that a burrito is better than love. I asserted that if everything in existence (besides the burrito of course, it survives) suddenly was no more, all that would exist was the burrito. Love would no longer exist because the only way it can survive is if there are minds that can conceive of it.
Without any human minds to keep it alive, love ceases to be and the burrito, in a sense, "wins".
I guess I agree with you in that, like love, all conceptions of "god" would become extinct if the minds in which the concept resides cease to be. The burrito wins again!
2006-08-18 14:15:14
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answered by Anonymous
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People many times try and humanize God or understand God. God is a Spirit and beyond human conception. When Moses requested of God "Whom should I say sent me" God would only say "Tell them that I AM that I AM" There is no way human, limited intelligence, mind can conceive of an inconceivable God. God is but a human word we use to describe this Deity. All powerful, All Seeing and beyond any relative description God is what He/She/It is and the Creator need not be understood by the creation. Everything we have and see are because of God and exist of their own. Total order and total Power. I doubt we could ever find words to describe or approach a description of what God really is.
2006-08-18 14:19:57
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answered by alagk 3
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The only immaterial things you know of are ideas, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's all there is. Alternate planes of existence, etc etc etc. There's a bunch of metaphysics. Try and visually percieve beyond visible light: it's the same kind of question of how your perception works. It's there, but we can't see it unless we somehow convert it to something we can.
But then again, I'm agnostic, so what do I know?
Edit: Oh and like ProZack (?) said to your other question, "Quantum Physics" but I'm not entirely sure that's an observable phenomena.
2006-08-18 14:15:54
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answered by Anonymous
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He will be "i'm that i'm" and he's sometimes documented contained in the wonders of the Universe, and the introduction of worlds and creatures like those that inhabit this planet. when you're searching for for the type of creature as an Invisible and Immaterial GOD, then you truthfully have the single which even the american Treasury believes in, and that i quote, " In GOD we believe" on the back of a lot of there expenditures. All concepts, and imaginings have some foundation in truth, As truth turns into heritage; heritage turns into Legend ; Legend turns into fantasy; fantasy turns into tale; memories turns into memories advised to remind us of what once became, etc. you may in ordinary words ask oneself if most of the failings we now trust immediately have real evidence, that became once tangible, till destroyed through guy's own hand. would it not then be so not ordinary to conceive in an Invisible , Immaterial GOD, or God Like creature; as that creature would have seemed to be to guy in historic days. There are too many questions and too many unexplained phenomena in this international on my own, for us to ask, how became this executed? Why became this executed? Who did this? the position did they flow? the position are they from, if not from Earth? Many refuse to seem at ordinary evidence at take it at face fee; different ignore about what there eyes see as hocks, and fictitious. This God will be like the Gods of fellows, as men have worshiped them because the first light of their time on the planet. each way of existence in this international has Gods they have worshiped in thier previous, and ones they worship now; all are invisible and immaterial, except they maximum up-to-date god of guy: money! it really is neither INVISIBLE nor IMMATERIAL.
2016-11-30 19:12:27
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answered by ? 3
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If I artificially created a brain in a lab that was exactly the same as mine, would it be able to think? I dont think so.
I think that thought can exist without a physical body.
The argument of God has stopped being about if God exists, it has started being about who is smarter, If I proved that God exists you still wouldnt believe me, so why type up a long answer to answer your question...
2006-08-18 14:17:32
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answered by Peter 3
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If you can not or chose not to see something it does't mean it is't there..
you can not even the rays which travel in air cellphone so u can make calls,you can't even see it dark..
Once you open ur eyes i am pretty sure you would see the proof of existance of god everywhere(You and i Exist caus god created us)
Do you really think this complicated system is just going on for no reason and there is not origin of our existance?
2006-08-18 14:22:56
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answered by Ali 5
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and what if this is a dream and God is the only reality?
When we sleep our brains believe what we dream, what makes this world any more real than a dream.
It's a matter of perspective.
2006-08-18 14:20:21
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answered by mother 3
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There is real evidence for God !
2006-08-18 14:22:12
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answered by Tinkerbelle 6
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Annoyingly immature.
2006-08-18 14:28:07
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answered by Anonymous
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