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I don't really care how things started. They just started. I'm here. We're all going to die some day, and we'll disappear for ever. End of story. Why would you need to know more?

2006-08-18 07:49:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Your question I believe assumes that because I do not believe the Biblical account of creation that I believe creation occurred in a different fashion.

A couple of things to point out.

1. There is no compelling reason to assume creation ex nihilo. The notion of non-existence itself is rooted in our misperception of finitudes that may not in fact exist. We perceive our consciousness as finite, we perceive events that appear to begin and end and we apply this to the notion of existence, even though we leaarned a long time ago that what we perceive as an abrupt beginning or end is often simply a change in state.
2. Those of you into quantum physics know that things do appear to pop in and out of existence, though I suspect this is more that things pop in and out of our ability to perceive, detect, measure. We know today that simply because electromagnetic waves are occuring below or above the range of visible light does not mean they don't exist. We cook our burritos with electromagnetic waves that at one time we could not detect.

I make those points in advance of a position that seems counter-intuitive to beings of limited perceptual range, i.e. that our notions of finitude may not apply to existence at all. This shouldn't be hard for thesists to grasp. If you can accept the notion of a fully formed, all-powerful, all knowing, omni-present and yet invisible and indetectable creator which had no beginning and no ending, then the notions of a universe having always existed shouldn't be hard to accept. If God could always exist with no beginning or end, why not the universe? Believing that the matter and energy were always here without the need for a creator is a simpler solution that believing that an infinitely complex creator created the universe, but that much more complex than a universe creator needs no creator. Occam's razor, right. If God can exist ex nihilo why not the universe, other than your preference for the God story beause you've been indoctrinated with it from before the time when you could form a rational thought.

So in terms of existence, I do not in fact accept the concept of ex nihilo. I accept the concept that our ability to detect and measure are currently constrained with limits that historically have been exceeded again and again.

As to how human beings came into existence, I find evolution a consistent and rational proposal which we have tested sufficiently to conclude it's reasonable. We have evidence of how natural events can move the chemical to the biomechanical and how the biomechanical mutates, adapts and evolves without intelligent intervention.

But I would also point out that the Biblical account falls of its own weight whether we have an alternative explanation or not. We can establish from the geologic and fossil record that homosapiens did not abruptly appear out of the dirt a few days after the earth was formed. I can establish the falsehood of a hypothesis by pointing out where it fails to explain the evidence without having to know a hypothesis that does answer all the evidence. In other words, simply because you have an irrational explanation handy doesn't make it the right one.

2006-08-18 08:38:12 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I believe in an almighty creator and his first creation was another spirit creature like himself. col 1;15 Rev 3:14
Jesus Christ and thru him and for him all other things were created in heaven and earth. For billions and billions of years they created the Universe and the millions and millions some say billions of other spirit persons. Aliens in that they were not from this planet. they chose a planet and took perhaps billions ofyears to shape it just right. Right spot in the universe, right size and shape. put in there a moon. Sun, water, water vapor clouds to water it like a giant hot house. They began creating plants, until the whole earth was vegetation. Even in the seas.
Maybe millions of years has went by. Then they made fish and then birds. Millions more and they made land animals.
We only have a tiny portion of all the animals and fish they made we have killed off most of them. Everything was good and perfect. He should have stopped with the elephants.
He made two people and they were rebellious right from the start.
they cut down the trees and burned them and dirty the air.
killed the animals and got sick and diseased from there filthy habits. But he is very patient and he waited. Enough time has went by to resurrect a whole world full of people who won't be wicked . His purpose won't be stopped by humans.
He has worked billions of years for this moment.
Soon all wicked will die and the righteous will live.
Then it will be fulfilled: The meek will inherit the earth.
Man has only been here 6000 years in the sceme of things not to long to wait for a world full of righteous people.

2006-08-18 07:57:41 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The belief of the biblical creation is based solely on faith of the book. Nothing else. Nothing more. But definately it's not based on logic.

2006-08-18 07:54:36 · answer #4 · answered by Sick Puppy 7 · 0 0

the big bang created the universe. the earth was all water first when it was first formed. the conditions that took place on earth (gases, storms, and different elements) created one single cell. the single cell reproduced constantly, and some of the new sells were mutated. more mutations happened, and soon jelly fish formed, then more and more sea creatures. volcanoes erupted and created the land areas where sea creatures (reptiles) went and then there were birds. and then mammals. the people.

some scientist actually recreated the conditions that were said to be at the time of the first cell in a lab and he actually created a cell. science is nifty.

2006-08-18 07:55:49 · answer #5 · answered by pete 3 · 0 0

Existence Exists.No more no less.Does it really matter how?When you come right down to it we'll really never know.Live and let live is what I say.Who cares where we came from or where we're going.What matters is what we do in the present moment while we are alive.

2006-08-18 07:54:48 · answer #6 · answered by 2BaD4u 4 · 0 0

No, but just because I can't explain it, I don't have to believe in the bible. I'll just wait tila greater mind than mine can explain it in a reasonable and satifactory way. The bible is just too far fetched for me.

2006-08-18 07:50:42 · answer #7 · answered by droolie_da_dog 4 · 0 0

cars mutated from aluminum buried deep inside the earth, and then over millions of years erosion unearthed these cars and thats how we have automoblies, im not sure how planes got here, im gonna have to do more seeking on that

2006-08-18 07:59:26 · answer #8 · answered by here3 3 · 0 0

alien excrement, their go'na come back and wont be draging some cross. repent for the time is near

2006-08-18 07:57:04 · answer #9 · answered by HEY boo boo 6 · 0 0

There was no creation.

All creationists need to do is substitute "universe" for "creator" and you have your answer.

2006-08-18 07:52:44 · answer #10 · answered by Left the building 7 · 0 0

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