the bible has been edited throughout time from different kings and popes and such....prove?

Question

me wrong.
I want to know what strongly religious people say about this.
Knowing human behavior why wouldnt any one of the worlds most powerful kings and or religious leaders try and change small parts of the bible for their own advantage or have a "vision"?

or have a sudden "vision".

if the bible is a book of stories when was the last story included?
why arent there anymore of these cool vague stories being told?

thats my point from the 1st guy.
30,000 which is right
and thats a bad estimation.
name em

within translation and new versions coming out explainations can be misinterpreted.
translation is much harder than you think and when the translator comes to a situation of uncertainty a biased answer can surface.
Ever studied two bibles of different languages?
try it!

ok popes never translated or changed the bible. That doesnt mean that they never had influence over the people that might have done translations or additions.

crossstitchkelly
you have said what I couldnt.
That is exactly what I am talking about.
Another precise translation barrier; German Virgin is said as "Jungfrau" but this word can also mean young girl.
So in this context "was Mary a woman who never had intercourse with a man or a young girl? Or both?
languages are difficult now, that makes them much harder back then.
think about it.

carl ur wrong
wait till you get to college u'll c what i mean

i think there would be less strife if "believers" had real good arguements to uphold in conversation as apposed to saying "My strong faith" or quoting the bible.
I think that half of church time should be spent educating the masses with sources the rest of the world uses.

Answer 1

I was baptized Roman Catholic, although I do abide by some "guidelines" of sorts, I don't refer to myself as Roman Catholic. Anyone who is Catholic or Roman Catholic knows that not long after birth, a child is Baptized so it's pretty much the parents choice right off the back. Growing up, I did attend Catholic masses, participated in Catholic ceremonies, even went to Sunday school, made my Communion, up until I was just about 11 or 12, did not make my Confirmation.

Now as with all religions, Catholics interpret the Bible in their way, they even have services in Latin. I've attended services with Christians, Baptists, Jehovah Witnesses, and yes even services with Muslims. With this experience I learned that for the most part, there is hypocrisy in each, all we can do as humans is try to live our lives in a just manner, and grow as close to God as we possibly can in our own way, using the Bible, Koran, etc. as guidelines.

I'm going to attempt not to make this a lengthy blog, bare with me. The Bible, hmmmm, who was it written by, MAN. I believe it is a GUIDELINE, not something truly written by Gods "hand" per say. Now let's revert to a childhood game, and perhaps you can understand why I say this. Does anyone remember that game "Gossip"? Basically, it's played like this, a group of 10-20 people stand in a line or a circle, the first person whispers something in the second persons ear, the second person whispers the same thing in the third persons ear, and this continues until it gets to the last person, the last person then says aloud what they were told, and with EVERY game, what started out as one thing, it ended up as another, this proved that words are twisted, manipulated, interpreted, by each individual in their own way, so by the time it reaches the end (which would be us in our current day) there were bound to be some changes.

Think about this, the Bible is a compilation of different experiences, each written by different persons, over years, then with each story, it was translated, and interpreted by many. Case and point, according to the bible, Jesus was Jewish, the Jews do not believe in Jesus, they believed Jesus was a false prophet. The Old Testament began with Moses, which covered 12 centuries of stories, experiences before Christ. The authors of the New Testament covered about 50 years, if I'm not mistaken. The original languages of the Bible were Hebrew and Aramaic, and eventually, the Bible has been translated into just about 13, 000 different dialects, languages, anyone knows, a lot can get lost in translation, add to that, it being passed through centuries.

Yes, the Bible is a GUIDELINE, I see it as such. I do not look down my nose at the people who follow it word for word, or who quote verses and such, but all I ask is that they respect my beliefs, not try to "force feed" theirs on me, yet I would like them to understand.

Answer 2

I agree. There wasn't even a recognized New Testament until after Constantine made it the official religion of Rome. Up until that point, there were all types of books floating around. The bishops convened at Nicea (as in the Nicene Creed) to not only determine which books should be included, but the very nature of Christ. Some factions said he was a rabbi, some said he was God, and some said he was the Son of God. Obviously, other leaders have commissioned their own versions of the Bible. After all, the most common version is called the King James Version! And there have been all kinds of mistranslations. The part talking about the Virgin Mary was written in Greek, and in the Greek language at the time, "virgin" only meant a young girl--it had nothing to do with sex. Also, Moses did not part the "Red" Sea in the original Hebrew--he parted the "Sea of Reeds," which is probably a reference to some marshy areas in Egypt which often become less deep with the tides, to the point that they can be crossed. Finally, Joseph did not wear a "coat of many colors" in the original Hebrew--he wore a coat with sleeves.

Answer 3

The Bible has been translated, at least since the King James version, from the most reliable of ancient texts. Therefore, while there are different versions (translations), they have really not been edited. The early church did establish the canon and there is still some debate as to what books should be included. However, there is a general consensus, based on internal consistency and external validation, that the books that are currently part of the Bible (as opposed to the gnostic "gospels" and other ancient Christian and Jewish texts) are the inspired works.

May God bless and keep you.

Answer 4

All of the parts of the Bible were completed (according to seular historians and scholars) by about 100 A.D. Throughout time there have been translations and re-translations, but most of them are substantially and essentially the same. The really only significant difference between editions is the number of books included (Catholics vs. Protestants vs. Jews) but that's a different story. Anyways, suffice it to say that, yes, I have read the Bible in at least one language other than English and they may not match up verbatim, but then again much translation work (especially when it is done by amateurs) will turn out differently. But it is important to remember that these editions of the Bible are essentially the same. The differences in religious denominations are more often caused by the interpreter of what's already translated into his/her language. "Young Man Luther" by Erikson bearas this point out. Also read Psychoanalysis and Religion by Fromm, as to the above point.

Answer 5

no one had any visions. try watching history channel sometime. there were millions of stories, gospels, letters, etc. that circulated involving jesus, god, etc. basically a committee came together and picked what they thought were the most important ones to come together to form the first bible. thats why there is so much controversy when new documents are found like the judas letters that were found recently. or like the documents about mary magdeline having jesus's children. yes leaders and popes changed things for their own advantage. and i empasize "their" because they wanted their people to believe what they wanted them to believe. I think that people should have access to all the documents.
either way, the bible is still a fictional book meant as a guide in this life. whether or not leaders and popes changed it to fit their own selfish purposes, you have to admit that a lot of the lessons you can take from the bible help mould you into a decent human being.

Answer 6

Not quite true. Firstly God states in the Bible that no other books should be added to the Bible. Hence the Book of Mormon is false and has been exploited by the writer to create himself as a god. This is clearly wrong and is against Gods will.
Also the Bible has been edited into different versions and languages but the books and parables have been kept essentially the same.
Try checking www.bethinking.org to find the answers to any more questions concerning Christianity.

Answer 7

While it is only the "old testament", at least there is a version that is as close to the original Hebrew as we can get publicly. This has helped me point out mistranslations between the earliest versions and the newer translations/edits.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm

I'll find the site that has the oldest Greek texts and get back to this answer with an addition.

Addition: Here is the site - http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/newtestament.html
NOTE: Some of the commentary is from a christian perpective rather than an unbiased view. I try to go for sites that are neither pro or con when possible.

Answer 8

That is so true but it still has retained most of the truth. Amazing when you think about how many times it has been copied by hand and edited for different languages. The Church of Jesus Christ Later day Saints, believes that the lord is still reveling his word to the people at this time. The story's and the books are still being written.

Answer 9

Hundreds or even thousands of writers from kings to popes and other scholars have edited the Holy Bible and every edition they made there are words changed from their original meanings and because of so much editing of the Holy Bible there are about 50, 000 or 60, 000 words tampered. And one thing I see from all these editions - these are true evidences that religion is a good business so far... by editing the Bible it spent millions and even billions of dollars... so what is the next to expect is to recover those amounts spent!

Answer 10

Sorry, but you can't state a falsehood and then expect other people to prove you wrong. It's up to you to get your facts straight in the first place.

I don't know about kings -- but no Pope has ever "edited the Bible." Never, never, never.

The burden of proof is on you, sir. Why don't you prove that there have been Popes who have "edited" the Bible?

You simply cannot make an assertion like that, and then expect others to prove it wrong. It doesn't work that way.

It's up to YOU to prove your assertion. Or, if you can't, to retract it. That's how the rules work.

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