To nonbelievers: If God doesnt exist, answer this(but you cant!!)?

Question

If God doesnt exist, and there is just this physical world, and we are just a biological being (not

spritual)
How is that anybody(if his morals and heart has not changed toward evil completely) will

consider an act of sacrifice a GOOD
and humane act.
for example if someone put his/her own life in danger to rescue another person, or if some

body give his/her kidney to a patient who need it without asking for money or .....all of these are

considered by NORMAL people good acts.
but in your ideology(If you think we are just this biological body) they would be stupid acts, that

takes even this little time that you have on earth or probably enjoy the materialistic enjoyments

away from you in the case of sacrefising your life for others.
or in the case of giving you kidney free or ... it would be loosing some materials without gaining

anything, so it would be all really stupid,
the fact that ALL NORMAL people admire these acts , and they feel good after they give a

charity for example proves that there is something more than this physical world , and when

God created the people he put ot in their hearts

as a muslim I believe that there is only one
God and he is perfect in everything , he is all knowing , most powerful, most kind ....

to soleil noir: you said
"Humans do good and humane things because they have empathy "
ok this empathy would be stupid if there was nothing else than this physical world.
the reason for that empathy is that your heart know there is something elase but you havent accepted that conciously

to medina W:
no even alot of those who doesnt belive in god become happy after giving charity or adnire these acts . so it means its in thier heart that there is more than this physical world. even when they conciously dont accept it!
God put it in their heart

LOOK non of you aswered my question:
most said you shoudnt believe in god to do
good dids and sacrefices. I KNOW!!!!
but lets analyse this feeling of good that you get after doing a good thing,
you know things make sence, any feeling that you have in your heart has an answer a reason outside.
if nonbelivers do sacrefice and enjoy itis because thier heart know the truth but they
consiously dont accept it beacause of the veil of this physical world

Answer 1

My observation of the answers here indicate that they cannot read, cannot understand what they read, or did not read at all.

A common virus on this site.

Answer 2

An excellent example of why it is so hard to have a halfway intelligent discussion about religion with religious fanatics. You think that you have a monopoly on morality, and that without a god there is no spirituality, end of story.

You have a right to believe in a god as much as I have a right not to believe in any. Beliefs cannot be discussed because it involves a leap of faith, and it is an individual decision whether one makes that leap or not. That decision needs to be respected before any kind of conversation can take place.

So the discussion cannot be about whether or not there is a god. We can discuss whether religion can be the only legitimite source of morals and values, and the validity of morals inspired by non-religious values. We can talk about how equipped a man-made church is to act as an interpreter and enforcer of a god's will. We can inquire into the reasons for the proliferation of so many different branches within a religion, each with it's own claims of legitimacy.

A question that has always fascinated me is: why do we feel the need to believe in a god?

Any chance I could interest you in any of these pursuits?

Answer 3

You are assuming that the only way people can do selfless acts is because of god. People that do not believe in god are not necessarily selfish. You can believe in the humanity of man and do selfless act without believing in god. You may simply believe in the good of people. Society creates and guides man's sense of right and wrong. That is why different societies around the world have such different interpretations of right and wrong. Believing in a higher power is what works for many people around the world but that does not make the others wrong. I think people say that it is easier to accept God with an open mind. Maybe we should all keep an open mind about the things we don't know everything about. Open means to both sides of the discussion.

Answer 4

Well one thing's for sure, you don't have to be religious or believe in a religion to want to do a good thing for someone. For everyone, religious and not, everyone (or at least just about) wants to live for as long as they can. They don't know what comes after death. Many people believe if they do something nice for someone else, they can die happily or more peacefully. We're still human, we still have personalities and our own unique different perspective. Not to mention there's that fuzzy warm feeling you get after doing something nice (with thanks in return of course).

Many people are just light-hearted, some are ignorant (I know many NYC'ers are), people do what they want to, you should really just leave it at that. After all, it's not your decision what they do, and if it were giving up an organ, I don't think it's right to question the person's decision.

Besides when was the last time you did something stupid and didn't care about how stupid it was?

Answer 5

Ok I will answer this question even though I am afraid that you are so blinded by your faith that you wont consider any "non-believers" answers.
I am a spiritual person so I dont completely fit into your scenario. But I can try and speak for the people who dont believe in god and aren't spiritual like my fiancee. the majority of us have been raised to "be good." my fiancee and i were both raised catholic so we learned morals and what is the difference between right and wrong. of course, back then you did what was right because you were either scared of God or your parents.
Now, neither one of us believe in God. Yet, we are still good people. If you were raised right, whether or not religion came into play, you live out what you were taught. The way I see it is I don't do wrong especially to other people because I love other people. Like I said I am spiritual so I believe that if you do others harm that it will come back to you threefold. Now, my fiancee doesn't believe in anything but science. He still does right by people. Why would he harm anyone? What would he have to gain by it?
I'd like to believe that we don't need God as an excuse to do good because we are afraid of the repurcussions when we are bad. I would like to hope that people believe in God because they have faith and the need to believe in something bigger than them.

Answer 6

I don't need a god to do "good" things.

Yes, they're stupid, but I'd do them anyway, because I'm a good guy.

Moreover, our society only works because people help each other. I know that it's harder to break 2 twigs at the same time than 2 twigs separately. So I will do my best to put myself close to another "twig" when I see it's going to break hoping someone else will do the same thing for me later.


No need to believe in god to do that. And worse: if you really believe what you just said, then you've NEVER done any "humane action" in your entire life: you're only waiting for your "reward" in paradise. People like that disgust me. I really hope you don't believe what you say.

Answer 7

There's a very easy and logical answer to your question, and it comes to us from evolution. The short and sweet answer: altruism.

In evolution, the goal of the 'game', as it were, is to get your genes spread as much as possible. Now, in small local groups, you share genes with the rest of the group -- you're probably closely related. Therefore, if one sacrifices his/her life for another member of that group, or especially, two or more members of that group, his/her particular set of genes comes to an end of its reproductive cycle. However, because so many of his/her genes are found in those who survived by virtue of his/her sacrifice, those genes are spread wider and further than if a sacrifice was not made.

In groups where this instinct for altruism was not present, survival rates for the collective gene pool would have been lower, which would put selective pressure on the species away from non-altruism to altruism.

In essence, evolution provides a far more convincing reason for human altruism than does your q'ran.

Answer 8

Animals make sacrifices, too. You don't have to be spiritual to make sacrifices for the sake of others. A sow bear will risk her life to protect her cubs. A doe will draw a predator away from her fawn(s) to save them. A bird will feign being injured to draw a predator away from it's nest. Humans as well as other creatures do these things because it is instinctual for survival.
And, by the way, "non believers " perform good and humane acts such as kidney donations , donations to charities, etc. just as other human beings do.

I just answered it . Are you embarrassed now ? You are one sick puppy, do you know that?

Answer 9

No, this just compassion and doing the right thing. Just because someone does not believe, this does not mean that they are evil or heartless. I may not beleive, but I know right from wrong. I have compassion for my fellow man, but not because someone told me to. Just because it is the right thing to do. I don't believe, but I agree with the majority of what is written in the Bible. I still believe the Bible was written by a common individual who wanted to make the world a better place.

Answer 10

Psychologically I think we can all relate to being in need having all at one time or another been in a situation where we needed something. So because of this, it does feel good to us because we know we are able to be there for people at their time of need. It is not stupid because each person wants to be remembered for something more than just meeting their own needs.

Despite being godly or godless, in the long term most people want to have some kind of legacy to pass on.

Answer 11

If you consider it took man decades to figure out how DNA works, the molecule that evolutionists say "just happened", you'll see it takes more faith to not believe in God than it takes to believe.

If you consider the propensity of the universe towards chaos as described by Isaac Newton's second law of thermodynamics, and the ordered nature of DNA (and messenger RNA for that matter) the "random" occurance of DNA becomes so unlikely that it is a greater leap to say there was not a Creator involved than to say was.