Whoever spoils his son will bind up his wounds, and will suffer heartache at every cry. An unbroken horse turns out stubborn, and an unchecked son turns out headstrong.
Pamper a child, and he will terrorize you; play with him, and he will grieve you. Do not laugh with him, or you will have sorrow with him, and in the end you will gnash your teeth. Give him no freedom in his youth, and do not ignore his errors. Bow down his neck in his youth, and beat his sides while he is young, or else he will become stubborn and disobey you, and you will have sorrow of soul from him. Discipline your son and make his yoke heavy, so that you may not be offended by his shamelessness. (Sirach 30:7-13 NRS)
2006-08-17 14:26:04 · 24 answers · asked by You really_believe_that_shit? 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Spanking = beating 100% of the time.
A beating is a beating, even if it's a light beating
Spanking is evil, it's lazy parenting. When you feel the need to spank your child, you have failed, as a parent, to REACH your child. Spanking is always done out of anger.
You wouldn't dare to hit your animal, why on Earth hit a child???
2006-08-17 14:35:31 · answer #1 · answered by Dolores G. Llamas 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You obviously are not a believer. You seem to be twisting these words to suit your own twisted needs.
Anyone in there right mind knows that what this says, basically is "Dont spoil your children, teach them respect and spank them when they need it". Another way to say it is "Spare the rod, spoil the child". If you can honestly look at our world today and tell me that you think that the children are well behaved, respectful, and disciplined, then you are as twisted as you seem.
What book did you get this from, my Bible doesn't have a "Sirach"
2006-08-17 15:25:50 · answer #2 · answered by chulita 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I believe Sirach is in the Catholic Bible and also known as Wisdom in the Torah. I think it teaches many things. . . one being the fear of the Lord. . . . which their certainly is not much of today. I miss it. I was never beaten. But I was spanked. There were 5 of us children in my catholic family.[I am no longer a catholic] I was never abused in any way. But I knew how to behave. And my father and mother could take the five of us to visit or out to eat with no disturbance. It was a good thing.
I do not like being around children today because they don't know how to behave and have no fear of God or their parents. Children are not the joy they used to be. A little of the Book of Wisdom or Sirach wouldn't hurt. God knows we have spoiled this generation of kids.
2006-08-17 14:54:06 · answer #3 · answered by cathyhewed1946 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
As a parent part of your role is the disciplinarian. With that said, I do believe you must spank your children sometimes, but you should never beat them. I have read many extremes on this site from parents who either refuse to spank or parents who literally whip their kids. I'm not a parent yet, but I grieve when I read from both of these. Children do need discipline and boundaries but you should never ever abuse the children God has given to you. They are a gift and should be raised by firm but compassionate, loving parents. The parent is the first source of teaching God's love to a child. When Jesus was teaching and the children came running to Him, He did not shoo them away as the disciples did. He said "Let the children come to Me." Jesus Christ was unafraid to show emotion and love and yet He is the most powerful being that came onto earth. If you love your children the way Jesus loves you and I, your children will grow up to be responsible and kind adults- something we need a lot more of.
2006-08-17 14:44:19 · answer #4 · answered by M N 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What the heck? I searched Sirach and came up with the hereinbelow link.
However, this passage seems similar to "spare the rod, you spoil the child". And current pediatric psychologists will tell you that children crave boundaries. I firmly believe that you don't have to beat a child to make him or her behave, but it helps if they believe you might if they step far enough out of line. LOL
2006-08-17 14:35:29 · answer #5 · answered by girlnblack 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
While the passage quoted above is not accepted as Bible for many Christians it does have some agreement with some Bible passages. I am very thankful that my father loved me enough to bring out the strap when needed. I feel sorry for the kids who have to live with a screaming parent who is convinced that spanking is below them.
2006-08-17 14:55:15 · answer #6 · answered by 4thwatch 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
you shouldn't beat your kids, just whip them. Disipline is very important no matter what the crazy experts say. Parents did it for years until it became a crime. Look at how kids are turning out now. They are horrible and spoiled and are going to destroy the world that they will inherit because they all will have to have there own way and when the world is full of nothing but that, all hell will break loose.
2006-08-17 14:37:13 · answer #7 · answered by reallyfedup 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Fool. Do you even know what that means? It means that you're never too young to learn how to be aware of the repercussions of your actions. Not that I'd expect you to know that. You're just trying to irritate people with what you believe is a book full of unanswerable riddles.
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2006-08-17 14:35:47 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I've always believed "spare the rod; spoil the child''....it doesn't have to be physical abuse, but it certainly needs to leave an impression [no pun intended] on them.âºâââº
2006-08-17 14:35:07 · answer #9 · answered by Kiss my Putt! 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Discipline in various ways including spanking when needed, yes.
Child abuse----No.
2006-08-17 14:37:59 · answer #10 · answered by rangedog 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋