Muslims Caught With Over 1000 Prepaid Cellphoness Trying to Get Around Gov't Wiretapping?

Question

Thanks alot New York Times; last week two sets of Muslims were caught with prepaid cell phones. One group had over 1000 and the other had about 300. These prepaid cellphones (i.e. Tracfone) are nearly impossible to track and you don't even need a name or address. My question is, do you all think this may be a direct result of the New York Times leaking news of government wiretaps? It appears that peoples lives are now in danger because some irresponsible newspaper wanted to get a front page scoop. Before the Times article was published, terrorists didn't think twice to call up their buddies and plot death and destruction because there was no need. Now that they know the government may be listening, they're resorting to sneakier methods -- like prepaid cell phones. If the president and other politicians can be slapped with a censure, why not the New York Times? I believe in freedom of the press and all, but what the Times did was almost unforgivable.

Anyone stupid enough to think these Muslims were trying to make money by reselling the phones is an absolute idiot. Seriously, how many Americans do you know of that buy cell phones off the street? Nobody in the United States buys second hand cell phones.

I'm glad that alot of you brought up that they can be used as detonators as well. Either way, these guys were up to no good.

Answer 1

Treasonous if you ask me. Freedom of press comes second to national security!

The same with the first Desert Storm war. Cameramen on the ground when our men and women landing to secure Kuwait. I think these people are commiting treason when they leak out national security information.

Answer 2

What you are accusing the Times of breaking is our country's
"Security through Obscurity". That is, if the bad guys don't
know we're doing something, we are more secure.

Being in the security business, I will tell you this: You will catch
some bad guys that way ... but not all of them. Moreover, you
give up a lot when you do it, and then are surprised when
somebody figures it out anyways.

I applaud the New York Times for this. I am appalled that
the Government would tap our phones without any judicial
overview.

Athough I would not want to be killed in a terrorist attack,
I'd rather "Live Free or Die." (Patrick Henry)

Clearly nobody in the Bush administration is even considering
the long term implications of the steps he is taking in the
name of security - and so people outside the administration
do. Right now, that is done by the Press and some brave
whistle blowers.

Remember, an order of magnitude more of people die
of flu every year than died in 9/11.

3000 souls is a lot - but 200 million is a lot more.

We aren't safe now. We weren't safe before and we will
never be safe again.

We can increase or decrease our security slightly by playing
games with intelligence and perhaps technology and man
power surrounding important infrastructure.

However, if the bad guys want to break in and there are
enough of them, it really doesn't matter what you do with
inteliigence or airport security.

This is why you work like hell to decrease the number of
people who want to harm us rather than telling people that
they have to do everything possible to make themselves
securer. There is no limit to what people can do, and
fundamentally, they will STILL not be secure.

We did more to increase our security by helping out during
the earthquakes and tsunamis than we have done in Iraq
or even Afghanastan in the last 6 years.

Spending $300+ in Iraq has only increased the temperature
of the hostility there. Think how many lives that money
would have saved if applied to medical research or to the
bottom line with poverty or to education or to ...

Remember, orders of magnitudes of people more die of flu
every year than were lost to 9/11 once.
I'm not saying that we should not have security at airports, etc.
However, I am saying that we need to think very carefully
about what is "reasonable".

There is a cost to increased security, both in terms of
productivity and country morale. Poverty kills.

We need to be very careful to not over-react, lest we make
terrorist incidents more deadly than they need to be.

Answer 3

Leave the New York Times out of it. Your run-of-the-mill criminal has been on to prepaid cell phones for years. And credit where credit's due, your average Muslim fanatic is a lot more intelligent and motivated than the dope-dealer on the corner.

Answer 4

No, they were trying to get untraceable phones that could be used to set off improvised explosive devices all over America. Funny they were caught due to the very same programs the American Left and the ACLU are so upset about...

You see, the left seems to think that death and destruction here in America is a good thing - proof they really hate America and all it stands for and want to see our country destroyed.

Answer 5

I don't know about the guys with 300 phones, but the dudes with 1000 who were caught in Texas had been seized before. For the same thing. Selling phones. Racial profiling.

By the way - they were released.

Answer 6

com on
quit the boring stereotyping
how many incidents do you know of where muslims bombed anything in the west?
if you are talking about 911 then watch 911loosechange!
muslims now are framed to supply the endless need for violence by an unchallenged belligerent nation.
most muslims who have to leave their country to go to the west
have no other choice ,they just want to earn a living with some dignity,you know why they have to leave their countries?
because of the despots and dictators the usa hypocritically supports and helps in maintaining power.
why would they only go to the west if they have no other choice?

ill tell you
for a moslem walking in the street and seeing two people having sex in the street,or seeing two men kissing or two women,all that is against their decency. they cry everytime a daughter thinks about having a boyfriend for example.its hell for them.and you think they want to live there.
also they have to endure racist trends such as we see here from the asker of this question,made all the more painful by the insisting on (love of freedom) and(equal opportunity) lies not even your own citizens believe.

Answer 7

who doesn't keep a few hundred prepaid cell phone in their car?

and the New York Times loves America at least as much as the ACLU does... which is just slightly less than Fidel Castro and Osama bin Laden do.

Answer 8

Now let that left wing federal judge who just outlawed the unwarranted wiretapping have the blood on her hands when the next terrorist plot is executed. Notice I said when because it's inevitable.

Answer 9

No, they weren't trying to get around wire tapping, the chips in the phones are the same ones explosives experts know to use to remotely detonate explosives>.> these guys were selling the chips to another man,another muslem, who had "plans" for them.

Answer 10

it;s the NY Times. they want headlines at any cost. and more attention is better. probably still trying to get away from that whole plagiarism thing they had a few years back. all print media are douchebags