What is the more accurate out of the box rifle?

Question

Out of these rifles, which is more accurate out of the box

Browning A bolt
Remington 700
Savage Arms 11G or 10GXP (pre packaged with scope)

All are in .223



Other .223 under 700 -800 dollars ??? Is there another model i should be considering. Thanks for the help. I know a ton of other people are going to suggest other rounds, but I'm stubborn with the .223, it was either that or the 308. I need something that i can afford to shoot at the range ALOT and dont see myself getting into handloading...Too busy being a student at college. Thanks again.

Other .223 under 700 -800 dollars ??? Is there another model i should be considering. Thanks for the help. I know a ton of other people are going to suggest other rounds, but I'm stubborn with the .223, it was either that or the 308. I need something that i can afford to shoot at the range ALOT and dont see myself getting into handloading Too busy being a student at college. I only intend to target shoot and at most rarely varmint hunt with it. Im interested in learning to shoot rifles at medium and then longer distances, figured i'd start small and cheap and then upgrade. Already experienced shotgun / pistol shooter looking for something new to get interested / drain the bank account on... Thanks again.

Answer 1

Remington 700 series is a smoker in just about any caliber. Armalite builds a kick a@@ .223 for about $700. It's the AR-180B. It's a semi-auto, assault rifle type.(Don't know if you'd be interested in the semi)

Answer 2

The new Savage rifles with the new ACCU trigger are my pick for the best OUT OF THE BOX without any aftermarket upgrades. The barrels are great and the trigger is fully adjustable from 1.5 lbs. and on. Check into Savages BVSS model. It will fit your benchrest-target passion just perfect. It has a full-contour fluted stainless bull barrel and a laminated wood benchrest stock with a massive palm-swell and beefy stock. It is also a looker, with a price of around $540. I have one in 243 Win. I handload, and I get better than factory accuracy. I have benched it at 300 yards and shot a 1.25" four shot group. They will shoot if you do your part and not break the bank like other brands. As for caliber, the 223 will only get you out to 250-300 yards, but it is stretching it for super accuracy. I would suggest the 308. Any ammo you buy that is accurate will cost you, that is why I handload. You can start handloading for about an initial $600-700 start up cost and if you shoot a lot, then it pays off quickly. I can handload for about a quarter of the cost. Just stick to a good brand of ammo with a match bullet in it. Hornady, BlackHills, Federal Match, and Winchester Supreme are good ones. Go with a ballistic tip as well or a match FMJ. Anything involving shooting ALOT will cost you loads, that's why I benchrest. This is just my opinion, but I have had extraordinary performance out of Savage rifles. I would only get the aforementioned Savage model for your purpose. If you don't like it, go for another brand. This one is Savage's accuracy flagship. Hope I could help.

Answer 3

All three are truely fine rifles and will shoot better than most people who own them will ever be able to. I have a Rremington model 700 chambered in .308 and it is a tack driver. The Browning is also a very good gun and would do you proud. But, my choice is the Savage. Savage arms do an outstanding job of making some extremely fine shooting rifles and they do it at an unbelievaby reasonable price. For target and varmit shooting the .223 is an excellent choice. To get the maximum accuracy from it I recommend that you get a rifle with a bull barrel and a synthetic stock. The thicker bull barrel will damp out the harmonics from the firing of the shell and thereby increase your accuracy. The advantage of the synthetic stock is that it won't expand and contract from changes in moisture. This expansion and contraction changes the pressures on the barrel and will noticibly effect the accuracy. Now, if you really want to get maximum accuracy from your rifle you will have to handload. The bullet that you shoot needs to match the twist rate of the rifling in the barrel. Check the library for a book on firearm ballistics and look up the Greenhill formula for twist. With it you can calculate the best bullet weight for your rifle based upon the twist rate. Longrange shooting is a real blast and it will certainly challange you. While you are at the library, try to find a book on Sniping. There is a wealth of information on long range shooting that you need to know that will be covered in a good Sniping book.

Answer 4

I have a 700 Remington in .223, and now that I have installed a Timney trigger, (the stock Remington trigger was designed by a lawyer not a shooter), it shoots as well as my Anschutz which cost quite a bit more. A friend of mine has a heavy barrel Savage 110 short action, and for the money I think it is a really decent rifle.
So, if you just want a shooter the Savage is the way to go. If you want something with a little more style, and you don't mind spending another $100 on a trigger, the Remington is really well made, and both are super accurate.
(I'm sure the Browing is nice but I havn't shot one)
I also agree that .223 is a great caliber. I have a .308 and 30.06, but I enjoy the light recoil and the inexpensive .223 ammunition.
Btw, I’m using a Burris 3X9 40mm Ballistic plex scope which I really can’t say enough good things about. It’s great for long shots.

Answer 5

My most accurate, out-of-the-box rifle is still my old Remington ADL .25-06, bought new in 1974 for $120.

The .223 tends to be inherently accurate. I guess it comes down to which model you like. All the ones you mentioned are good. Find the least expensive one.

Other than shooting paper targets, why do you prefer the .223 over the .308? Realistically, the .308 is the better hunting rifle. It is nearly as versatile as the old .30-06, and just behind it in power.

Army surplus 7.62x51 NATO rounds are inexpensive and work fine for practice/target shooting in a .308 Win. You do know that the 7.62x51 and the .308 are the same caliber?

A few weeks ago I saw Mossberg rifles in .243, .308, .270, and .30-06 at Academy for under $300. They featured nice looking green camo composite stocks. Ask around.

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Answer 6

I personally like the .308 better. Have you thought of a .22 rimfire? You can get a ruger 10/22 for under $300. The Browning is always a good bet. I have used the Remington 700 and I feel that it was pretty good out of the box. The savage arms ones, I have no experience with. The Savage lines have been dependable in the past, though. Good luck in what you choose.

Answer 7

.223 is a great caliber. Why would I suggest something else when you have not even said what you are using it for. A .223 is too small for deer (there ...happy? lol) Anyway I have a 700 BDL and it was sweet right out of the box. My wife has the A bolt with the boss system (not in .223) and tuning the boss was more finicky than I would have liked. I would take either of these over the Savage.

Answer 8

I shoot a lot of .223 ammo, around 1000 rounds a month, for the money you can't go wrong with the Remington 700 VS SF. The most consistantly accurate rifle in .223 I have ever fired.

Answer 9

A Savage or Stevens 200 in .223 is what I would put my money on any day. Savage and Stevens have made a huge turnaround and are cheaper than the other rifles. Remington's quality control is going way down, and it shows. A Browning A-Bolt is nice, but more expensive and accuracy will most likely be similar.

Answer 10

Remington varmit models have the best track record for being accurate. you can also have the trigger adjusted or replaced to make it even easier to shoot.

Savage has a heavy trigger pull and theres not much on the market to change it to.

Which ever one you buy make sure to break it in. take the time and do the one shot then clean till it stops showing copper in the rifling. then do 3 shot and clean for 4 or 5 times. that way you will get the best accuracy the barrel is capable of.