Immigration-enforcement proposal to go up for vote
Monica Alonzo-Dunsmoor
The Arizona Republic
Aug. 17, 2006 12:00 AM
PHOENIX - A group that wants to require Phoenix police officers and other city employees to enforce federal immigration laws has now collected enough signatures to put that measure to a public vote as early as November.
Randy Pullen, chairman of Protect Our City, needed 14,844 valid signatures to get the initiative on the ballot. His group turned in 15,052.
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There will be a special meeting at 9 a.m. Monday for the City Council to consider whether to put the measure on the Nov. 7 ballot. The meeting will be in the subcommittee room on the 12th floor of City Hall, 200 W. Washington St.
"People throughout the city are frustrated with the effects of illegal immigration," Mayor Phil Gordon said. "And now the residents of Phoenix will have the opportunity to vote."
Jake Jacobsen, president of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association, said Pullen's proposal is not the answer to the problem of illegal immigration.
Requiring police officers to enforce federal immigration laws would hamper their ability to deal with daily emergencies, Jacobsen said.
Pullen's group initially submitted 21,797 signatures, but the Phoenix City Clerk's office found only 14,160 of those valid.
Follow-up efforts yielded an additional 1,275 signatures. Of those, 892 were valid, which more than made up for the 684-signature shortfall.
Phoenix voters will consider whether police officers and other city employees should act as Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and whether Phoenix should "enter into an agreement with the United States Department of Homeland Security to designate police officers as immigration officers qualified to investigate, apprehend and detain aliens."
Pullen, who helped bring Proposition 200 to Arizona, plans to take this initiative to Tucson and Mesa next year.
Proposition 200 is a voter-approved measure that aims to restrict certain public benefits to undocumented immigrants and prevent them from voting.
The deadline is Aug. 24 to submit arguments that appear in election publicity pamphlets in support of or in opposition to the enforcement measure.
2006-08-17 06:41:49 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
This IS Good News
The Point Is NOT
Whether It Will Pass Or Not
Although I Would Favor That
The POINT Is That
The VOICE Of The PEOPLE Is Being Heard
America Is WAKING Up
And Were Waking Up On The Right Side Of This Bed
As Ive Said Before
More And More Cities, Counties And States
Are Taking The Initiative To DEFY The Fed. Govt.
We WILL Have Our Nation Back
Thanks For Posting
Keep The Faith
2006-08-17 07:09:19 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
this part amazes me:
Requiring police officers to enforce federal immigration laws would hamper their ability to deal with daily emergencies, Jacobsen said
i love how everyone touched on the fact that we shouldn't need a law to have our police officers enforce the law, but what strikes me as more odd is somehow the "president of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association" thinks that someone violating a federal law couldn't possibly violate local laws that create the daily emergencies that take up so much of their valuable time?
I hope it passes, and I hope it comes down here to Tucson too
2006-08-17 15:18:09 · answer #2 · answered by irishtek 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Proud Republ...said it best...why would you need to pass a law directing municipal law enforcement to enforce the law? To not enforce the law means they are in dereliction of duty and should be fired. I'm sure there are many people in Phoenix who'd love a chance at a law enforement job.
2006-08-17 13:53:50 · answer #3 · answered by RunningOnMT 5 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Well, the laws have to be enforced, so if there's not going to be a million ICE agents providing enforcement services, then the duty is going to end up falling to state and local law enforcement.
But again, businesses make it clear they won't hire illegals, that'll help turn the tide too...the US Border Patrol is looking for people, too...
2006-08-17 15:17:19 · answer #4 · answered by gokart121 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Excellent news! I hope more cities pass laws against illegal immigration. Especially like Allentown, PA.
2006-08-17 14:44:09 · answer #5 · answered by Tala 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
I think everyone is waiting to see what happens over in Pa that more or less is going to pave the way to what cities can or can not do
2006-08-17 14:46:35 · answer #6 · answered by Zoe 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Now.. if only Tx. could do something like that...
But Tx. can't because Tx only consist of pro's and illegals... or so it seems, except for me..
But, in all reality, Tx. is just going to be burdened by all those people from Arizona...Actually, all the southern states will besides, Arizona.
--Rob :(
2006-08-17 13:48:20 · answer #7 · answered by stealth_n700ms 4 · 3⤊ 2⤋
why do you need a special law to enforce the law
2006-08-17 13:47:35 · answer #8 · answered by Proud Republican 3 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Don't you hate stupidity, like when idiots take the time to post but they waste our time with "Too long, 2 points."?
I hope that it passes. It gives you reason to hope, doesn't it? They are FINALLY beginning to take some steps in our state as well. I hope with everything in me that something will finally be done. I hope that they pass that for you too. I love your posts. You and I both bring out the "one syllable criminal club". lol Good work!
2006-08-17 13:55:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 3⤋
I sure hope it passes. If it does, it will probably be tied up in committees or the court for years.
2006-08-17 13:48:07 · answer #10 · answered by sagerider 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋