Scientifically prove God?

Question

there are many questions LIKE this but not exactly...

Science has just found 3 more planets past pluto...for the past billions of years, we've believed there were just nine but now there are 12...unbelievable...

now, my question....

Is God the great one or is it just that our technology just hasn't been at it's best?

when our technology does get to that "great" point, will we be able to explain every question asked without using "God"?




some may know this already but, i'm NOT a christian...yet...i'm exploring christianity and learning more about God and his wonders. i'm just wondering about one thing.

Answer 1

Well, there is some debate as to whether or not Pluto should even be considered a planet. I think two of the new "planets" are actually an asteroid and one of Jupiter's moons. I don't think that our science hasn't been it's best. I think that we just keep improving it.

I recently watched a video called The Privileged Planet that discussed some of this. It talks about all of the things in the universe and what the odds are that Earth could be formed again. Eventually they came to the conclusion that there had to be an intelligent designer. The guys that did this are not Christians so it's kind of neat that people who are setting out to prove that God is wrong or creation is a myth actually wind up realizing that there is something/someone out there.

I pray that you will not wait too long before making a decision for Christ. Each time you delay it you are making a decision against Him and each time it will be harder and harder for you to make a decision.

Anyways, check the movie or book "The Privleged Planet" out sometime.

Answer 2

A PRACTICAL MAN'S PROOF OF GOD

The existence of God is a subject that has occupied schools of philosophy and theology for thousands of years. Most of the time, these debates have revolved around all kinds of assumptions and definitions. Philosophers will spend a lifetime arguing about the meaning of a word and never really get there. One is reminded of the college student who was asked how his philosophy class was going. He replied that they had not done much because when the teacher tried to call roll, the kids kept arguing about whether they existed or not.

Most of us who live and work in the real world do not concern ourselves with such activities. We realize that such discussions may have value and interest in the academic world, but the stress and pressure of day-to-day life forces us to deal with a very pragmatic way of making decisions. If I ask you to prove to me that you have $2.00, you would show it to me. Even in more abstract things we use common sense and practical reasoning. If I ask you whether a certain person is honest or not, you do not flood the air with dissertations on the relative nature of honesty; you would give me evidence one way or the other. The techniques of much of the philosophical arguments that go on would eliminate most of engineering and technology if they were applied in those fields.

The purpose of this brief study is to offer a logical, practical, pragmatic proof of the existence of God from a purely scientific perspective. To do this, we are assuming that we exist, that there is reality, and that the matter of which we are made is real. If you do not believe that you exist, you have bigger problems than this study will entail and you will have to look elsewhere.

THE BEGINNING

If we do exist, there are only two possible explanations as to how our existence came to be. Either we had a beginning or we did not have a beginning. The Bible says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1 :1). The atheist has always maintained that there was no beginning. The idea is that matter has always existed in the form of either matter or energy; and all that has happened is that matter has been changed from form to

form, but it has always been. The Humanist Manifesto says, "Matter is self-existing and not created," and that is a concise statement of the atheist's belief.

The way we decide whether the atheist is correct or not is to see what science has discovered about this question. The picture below on the left represents our part of the cosmos. Each of the disk shaped objects is a galaxy like our Milky Way. All of these galaxies are moving relative to each other. Their movement has a very distinct pattern which causes the distance between the galaxies to get greater with every passing day. If we had three galaxies located at positions A, B. and C in the second diagram below, and if they are located as shown, tomorrow they will be further apart. The triangle they form will be bigger. The day after tomorrow the triangle will be bigger yet. We live in an expanding universe that gets bigger and bigger and bigger with every passing day.
http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/Mansproof.html

Answer 3

"for the past billions of years, we've believed there were just nine but now there are 12"???

Get your science straight, hunny. We discovered Uranus in 1781, Neptune in 1846, and Pluto in 1930.

Yep, 1930.

That means that many people alive today over 76 years old were born BEFORE we discovered Pluto.

Billions of years? We haven't even been around for that long.

We can already explain a great number of things without God, such as lightning, hurricanes, earthquakes, thunder, rain, etc...

And even if we couldn't, saying "God did it" isn't an explanation. It's the same as saying "by magic." It's just a response, instead of an answer. Someone content with a "God did it" answer is just too stupid, lazy, or unconcerned to research an actual explanation.

Stick to science -- it actually deals with the real world instead of fairy tales.

Answer 4

IF (note this is a BIG if) - Christianity saw God as for what they meant for him to be, it would be a viable alternative for a religion to follow.

Want me to prove God scientifically?

Great; pick up a bible and read/find the definition of "God."
Now; pick up a science book and read/find the definition of "Energy." Now, pick up a physics book and read everything you can about Energy and Power.

God = Energy, same definition, same utility, same ability, same everything. Imagine there was a world, a "long time ago" were people told stories and metaphors about the world to try and tell each other things. Kind of like we have "moral stories" when we're kids. Now, in this world no one knew how to read or write, so people would travel hundreds of miles on foot to teach each other things that the well educated people knew. Would it be easier to try and explain the details, or tell a "moral story" to try and give people a general idea?

Great.

Now, for just one second, stop to think about this: technology has always been there. We're just getting better at using it. However, the principality of technology has not changed. We knew the rocks in the sky were there, except, that it wasn't until we redefined what a "Planet" was that we now have 12 planets in our solar systme.

So, who is to say that thousands of years ago they didn't understand that Energy was everywhere and everything? That this "Thing" made up everything in the universe? Is that not what we say about protons and neutrons and electrons? They are the smallest particles of "energy" and they "make up" everything in the universe.

But they wouldn't go around trying to explain what they knew. They'd tell all the ignorant people "stories" about what they knew. Imagine there was one big great person, just like you and me, but he was everything and everywhere - that's what energy is like, they would say.

Hoping they'd learn.

But instead they thought this person was a real living thing that had powers. They started to worship him, so the educated people came back and said "no, no, don't worship anyone! look, remember this guy? he's not real, he's up where you can't see him, he's everywhere, all the way to the stars and back, he's there."

Etc.

Unfortunately, it was just an explanation of science gone wrong. People went with it. The Romans and Catholics found that it was a very easy way to get people to follow things, to remain in control. They did so.

The story of Jesus - by the way - most Christians will flip the card "OH YEAH well it's been historically proven that jesus existed!" - but they will never tell you that the story that was proven to be Jesus was the last heir to the throne of Babel, which would've killed the Roman accupation in the mid-east; and that he married a woman that was royal blood to the arabic occupation which the Romans were trying to fight in the south. When Jesus got a big following, the sentenced him to death because he became too much of a threat. /shrug/ Stuff like that happens. He was a carpenters' son, but don't forget - carpenters were very VERY rich people back then, because only very few people knew how to build things. People didn't understand how to make a table, or a chair, or how to build a house from wood. They were the highly paid engineers, and such, not the common workers we see today.

Anyway, the entire bible and God can be scientifically proven. Christianity as we see it today, is ignorance of the facts, and a blind following of what has an explanation. People do it for comfort, but on the other side it looks like weakness.

Most of all, before you pledge alligiance to anything - study. Read. Visit people. Go see things. Don't let ANYONE tell you things and believe them without your own study and scrutiny.

You can still believe in energy. "God" if you so please. I do, but Christians call me Pagan since I refuse to believe that the word "God" means the Christian God Jehova, and instead "God" is an english term for a large amount of energy which is created by the imagination of thousands.

/shrug

Answer 5

If it were not for brave scientist and mathematicians, we would have been on the European continent hundreds of years longer , thinking the world was flat. Herbalists who were using herbs that are now drugs (digatalis) were burned as witches, round worlders were hanged as heretics, mathematicians put to death as blasphemers.
Reminds me of of someone saying that a death is God's will. I think it's usually because some one is too sick to live. Then if science saves someone, God still gets the credit.
The religious community is very selective about what scientific work they will claim for God's glory. Just what suits them. All present technology can be explained without once mentioning God. Credit where credit is due.

Answer 6

on the subject of a non-interventionist, deist god, technology is silent. yet i components you my occasion for the way a particular faith must be proved, a minimal of to a definite quantity. think of that the contributors of a denomination or faith exhibited magical potential. a number of those be conscious of-how incorporate, yet at the instant are not constrained to commencing fires with your innovations, therapeutic touch, making bread from no longer something, and so on. Use your mind's eye. If that have been occurring, shall we word that. the massive question may be this. How ought to all of us be conscious of those be conscious of-how come from the religion? First, this faith might facilitate the hunt. finished transparency will enable for the ruling out of selections. Can the adherents use their powers continuously under repeatable circumstances? If no, then there is not any way of understanding if this may be a fluke or deception. If sure, then we've a actual phenomenon. Are there sacraments that provide magic powers independently of the religion? If we are able to produce an identical effects only via copying the ritual devoid of the religion, then the religion isn't the reason. Do new adherents benefit those be conscious of-how whilst they convert, or lose them whilst they depart the religion? If no, then this is greater probable that the unique contributors have the be conscious of-how independently of their faith. is this the sole faith which could supply those powers? If no, then there is something different than for this actual faith at artwork here. in reality, we in basic terms hear approximately miracles that can not be examined. Believers who declare to have them refuse to subject them to scrutiny. Even worse, each faith has miracle memories, and none of them have been demonstrated. only one thing to think of approximately. P.S. The medical approach isn't approximately understanding information or sticking something under a microscope. it extremely is approximately asking the surprising questions.

Answer 7

What you are talking about is called the "god of gaps" theory or whatever. It says that basically earlier man saw what it couldn't explain and made a god for it. They saw lightening and that was unexplainable yet powerful so it must have been the "lightening god" that did it or something like that.
Well, I think it's safe to assume there is no lightning god. And now we have a scientific explaination of lightening and why it happens.
But regardless of all that. If one supreme sovreign God exists, He exists despite the "god of gaps" theory. And whether we can explain everything or not, it doesn't necessarily mean that God does not exist.

Answer 8

I don't think science is going to be able to explain why the human heart longs for another world if this world is the only one there is.

Nor will science be able to explain why the human mind feels compelled to conceive of another world when the evidence of matter does not suggest another world.

And science cannot explain why some human beings feel that they don't belong in this world.

That is, where does the feeling of the otherworldly *come* from?

Why does the human heart and soul reach for something *else* if this is all there is?

What is the scientific necessity of that feeling?

Answer 9

All science is from God... thus all science is good. But, man has not yet learned all that God has for man to learn. And, Man has mucked up a lot of what he thinks it is he has learned... that is why the world is a poluted mess. If man had not mucked it up so bad, God's science would alow all of mankind to live in peace and plenty.

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Answer 10

My answer is always the same to this question,prove he doesn't. I have all the proof I need in my life that GOD exists, I cannot convience you or anyone else because It's through my personnal hardships and happiness that I know he is here for me.