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i mean, they ask us "prove God exists". of course we can't, but we do have some proof behind it (http://www.godsci.com). but they believe in something with no proof, and it's a lot less believable. i mean they think the space and well...everything, just came here from nothing. it's MUCH more believable that a God created everything, than everything coming from nothing at all. If you disagree please explain why (just curious)...and if you agree well...you can answer too!! Blessed be :) Val

**i tried to explain best i could. sorry if it wasn't clear. and i'm not trying to offend anyone or their religion**

2006-08-16 18:12:28 · 35 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Clint E: Get a life :o

2006-08-16 18:19:42 · update #1

Wow people, stop attacking me. I didn't mean to offend to guys

2006-08-16 18:22:33 · update #2

Im not trying to force religion on you guys!! Plz just state your opinion

2006-08-16 18:34:12 · update #3

okay i'm sorry you guys. i made a mistake. i should have never posted the question in the first place. Blessed be (again), Val

2006-08-16 19:30:17 · update #4

35 answers

Well said :)

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I used to be an atheist. Over a period of time however, I grew convinced of the existence of the Christian God, and ultimately committed my life to Christ (e.g., see http://www.godsci.org/gs/chri/testimony/seek.html ).

For scientific and intellectual evidence for the existence of God, see http://www.godsci.org/gs/godsci/evidence.htm

Cordially,
John

2006-08-16 18:17:08 · answer #1 · answered by John 6 · 1 7

Can U prove God exists? No U can't. But it is human nature to want an answer to all questions. It's unacceptable to not know where we came from or how all things in the world got here. So humans had to create a reason and they called it God. Religion was invented as a way to control populations though fear. However, although religion has made no progress in proving there is a god, (it relies entirely on blind faith) science is constantly providing new and advanced scientific and logical explanations for the evolutionary process. Astronomy, geology, anthropology, are all combining to tell a much more believable story than an invisible force , a supernatural supreme being , who is all knowing and all seeing. What balderdash. God is nothing more than an imaginary friend for grownups. May I challenge you with a question of my own? God is supposed to have created everything in the book of Genesis, including mankind. Why is there no mention in the bible of dinosaurs? The last dinosaur existed sixty million years before man appeared on the face of the earth. The people who invented the bible didn't know that dinosaurs once existed, so they didn't know to mention them in the bible. The first dinosaur bones were discovered in the nineteenth century. Long after the bible was written. And who said , as U claim, that athiests believe we came from nothing at all? Evolution involves and requires a starting point.

2006-08-16 18:43:36 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You misunderstand the arguement. The burden of proof doesn't lie in what doesn't exist, but what does.

Science doesn't claim to prove gods don't exist. It does make claims and proves the true workings of the universe and life work. It takes a question and works on that question until a conclusion can be drawn. The site you mention does the opposite. It has already drawn the conclusion of a deity, and uses the scientific method in an attempt to prove it. The problem is, most of the work done like that doesn't hold up to unbiased scientific testing.

There are mountains of proof and evidence to support scientific findings, and much is made available to the public. Evolution has been witnessed in the last 100 years in a variety of life forms...everything from bacteria to birds. It was announced today, that the part of the human genome responsible for the evolution of the human brain was believed to be located. There is much evidence supporting the big bang, including evidence that the universe is still expanding. Scientists don't fear people questioning their findings, in fact they welcome it. The difference between the two is simply, with faith, if even one aspect of the god-figure is disproven, then the whole foundation begins to crumble. It's impossible for faith to advance, because of the attitude toward scienctific findings. Here's an example: The bible was taken literally for many centuries. Suddenly science puts forth not only the big bang theory, but also the steps that the earth went thru during its creation. Suddenly a re-interpretation of the bible is needed to keep the faithful from straying. With that, the popular story is that god's days are thousands and thousands of years long. You have to warp the beliefs of the past around the facts, as they're presented, in the present. That's not research, by definition, its indoctrination.

I'm not offended by questions like this. It just seems that MANY people of faith, refuse to leave their safe havens to explore the truth.

You say that it's more believable to think a god created everything. No offense please, but there are two problems with that statement. The first is that it's kind of the lazy way out. Look at research from differing standpoints. Read science journals that are affiliated with NO religious group. You won't be getting preached at by atheists, but you will be exposed to unbiased research on the topic. Secondly, its not more believable, but more comfortable. Many people have a fear of nonexistence so deeply ingrained in themselves, that it's comfortable to believe in a perfect afterlife, lasting eternity.

And a sidenote, just to be picky...are you aware "blessed be" is a traditional pagan saying?

2006-08-16 18:37:49 · answer #3 · answered by Bill K Atheist Goodfella 6 · 4 1

Can you prove that you are not a female pedophile? Can you prove that you don’t enjoy violence on TV or sharing sexual scenarios amongst your friends? Can you show us an atom and tell us where it exist? Can you prove that there is such a thing as spiritual growth?

“i mean they think the space and well...everything, just came here from nothing”.

Can you tell us from what place in this vast universe you came from? Can you prove that? Did you just magically appear in the womb and now your on Yahoo? Can you prove that what you are writing here is really reality?

“it's MUCH more believable that a God created everything, than everything coming from nothing at all”.

Can you tell us what a quasar is and how it is formed? Can you show tell us how your present environment came into existence? Can you show us what faith is and where it comes from? Can you tell us where fungi and bacteria come from, and where does it go?

“and i'm not trying to offend anyone or their religion”.

You need to get off your soap box with your judgment calls and self righteousness, and do some serious self study. The bible says “Judge and ye shall be judged”

2006-08-16 18:59:07 · answer #4 · answered by dn_side_umop 3 · 1 0

How many times is this going to be brought up every week...
Atheists don't necessarily believe that "all this" came from nothing. Most believe that saying God made it is a cop out for allowing science to do its thing. We don't know where the universe came from...
Maybe it's been here for all eternity, just changing and shifting form for trillions of millenia. I am not an atheist myself, but I used to be. I always wondered why the Universe had to have been created in the first place?
I am now a wicca, and believe that the Gods are coexistent to the Universe. One didn't preclude the Other; rather, the One is like the soul of the universe, like your soul is a part of you. Just as your soul changes bodies, the God of the Universe changes its skin. And right now this God is in a universe that looks like this one since its birth at the big bang...

2006-08-16 18:24:40 · answer #5 · answered by Angela M 6 · 0 0

You are right, scientifically speaking, if we can't trace every reaction back to its source (including the very first), we can't definitively say anything is anything. However, there is also NO physical evidence of a God. Neither side controls the winning ground. More importantly we can't create a fissure between the religious community and the scientific community. Looking at the world in a physical, tangible, quantifiable environment lets us learn more about the world around us. Looking at the world through a spiritual lens grants us intangibles, like morality. Separating the two means a world of immorality and ignorance, something neither side wants. Suffice to say, the more we come to learn about God's world, the closer we become to understanding God. Some are happy to believe they know the answers to the biggest questions (especially if those answers get under other people's skin) and aren't happy with that kind of big unknown in their life.

2006-08-16 18:35:24 · answer #6 · answered by valoriousblue777 2 · 0 0

Tell me, what do atheists believe in? Since you are so knowledgeable in all that is atheism. Tell me exactly what we believe in.

Atheism is the lack of belief in any god. That is all. Not all atheists believe in the Theory of Evolution, not all atheists believe in the Big Bang Theory, not all atheists are liberal, not all atheists are not spiritual. The only thing that all atheists share is the lack of belief in a god.

As an atheist who believes in both Big Bang Theory and Theory of Evolution, I can tell you that there is a lot of evidence supporting both theories. Are they both rock solid? No, but nothing is. If you research evolution (and this is the theory I am most knowledgeable in as I study biochemistry) you will see that there is plenty of evidence to support it. It isn't much more believable to say "God did it" if you actually study evolution.

Another issue with this "God did it" idea is where does it start? Think thousands of years ago when people didn't know anything about the source of rain. If these people didn't try to find a solution and just said "God did it" where would we be? We know that rain doesn't come from God snapping his fingers and saying "let it rain" so why should we assume that the origin of life is God snapping his fingers and creating man? It's imperative that we research to find the true source of things instead of just attributing everything to God. The biggest problem with the "God did it" logic is that we get nothing from it. Creationism has no contributions to science and technology. We get nothing from it. Creationism doesn't even tell us which god to believe in. Creationism is basically saying "I give up; I don't feel like finding out what everything came from, so I'll just give credit to God." Humanity doesn't benefit here.

The reason I don't believe in any god is lack of evidence. If a god were to rearrange the stars and spell out a message to me, I would believe. If a god were to snap his holy being into my bedroom, I would believe. But I have yet to see anything in life that can't be logically attributed to something other than god. God doesn't heal amputees.

2006-08-16 18:18:41 · answer #7 · answered by holidayspice 5 · 4 0

You said:
"they ask us "prove God exists". of course we can't"

At least you got that part right, because you fouled up massively in the next sentence:

"they believe in something with no proof, and it's a lot less believable."

The scientific arguments and theories fit the evidence. The work of Hawking, Einstein, Kepler, Newton and Copernicus explain how the universe works. The bile - oops, bible - explains nothing. It's a security blanket for the uninformed.

Religion was invented as an answer at a time when people had no answers, when they were ignorant and living in fear. We now live in a time of knowledge.

It's perfectly alright to continue to embrace religion out of fear and to seek comfort because science provides no "ultimate answers". But to claim religion is fact and reject knowledge (eg. the big bang, abiogenesis and evolution) when the facts are known is wilful ignorance.

2006-08-16 18:34:02 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

well I'm agnostic
and the reason i don't believe is theree is no way of knowing
Islam could be right
Judaism could be right
Christianity could be right
Hinduism could be right
Wicca could be right
any other religion out ther could be right
there is no way of knowing what to believe
and i believe there is a power, some sort of energy protecting this world, governing it guarding it, i just don't know if it is a conscience god, if it is just an energy or whatever else it could be
and i think that its better to live your life to the fullest, help other people and live a good life with regard to others rather than committing to a specific organized religion that may be Wrong may be right but you're not focusing on the true goal, to be a good person, who knows what the true definition of that is, but i think of it as someone who will help others who are need if they have the ability and means to.

2006-08-16 18:22:29 · answer #9 · answered by takingoverme248 3 · 0 0

Do some reading about the Big Bang Theory and the origins of the universe. It doesn't say everything came from nothing. Do some research and then try to hold an intelligent discourse on the subject. So you think it is much more believable that a magical, invisible supreme being in the sky created the universe from nothing? Including himself? And man was created from dirt? You have a strange sense of belief in works of christian mythology.

2006-08-16 18:30:22 · answer #10 · answered by ndmagicman 7 · 2 1

I believe that people of religious nature are the ones who need a reason, not the atheists. I don't need a reason not to believe in God, as everybody is born without believing in him, I would prefer to hear the reasons why religious people do believe, as they are the ones making extraordinary claims with little more than faith.
I don't mean this as an attack an anybody or any belief, but I feel the real question is "Why do theists believe?" rather than "Why do atheists disbelieve?"

2006-08-16 18:31:20 · answer #11 · answered by Another Nickname 2 · 1 0

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