do you guys think 2nd degree black belt is a beginner or expert in martial arts?

Answer 1

That's an expert my little grasshopper... :)

In the Martial Art I took it went like this...
White = Beginner
Yellow
Orange
Purple
Blue (I got to here.. then quit and started doing music instead)
Green
Brown
Black (1st Degree)
Black (2nd Degree) etc

Answer 2

In Karate the belt represent...
A first degree black belt is a rank that signafies that you know (not mastered) all of the basics and that your body has been taught how to move properly. At this point you are ready to move to a harder, different kind of training. To learn how to move your body to create your own power (not chi) and how to transfer that power out through your art.
A Second Degree black belt is a step up from the first. It shows that you are learning the advanced training and are on your way to a third degree. It's just a step that says that you understand how to create your own power (not chi) and that your sparring skills have increased to almost a non thinking reaction.
A third degree black belt is a teachers rank and means that you understand the basics well enough to teach them and understand the advanced stuff well enough to assist in teaching them. Your sparring should be advanced enough that you understand your opponents moves and read them well enough to move and counter while they are attacking.
This is for Karate and not other arts. Each art has it's own idea of advanced belts. Some give them freely according to how long you've been there and some you really have to work hard to earn.
A second degree is nothing to sneeze at. It is a very important step and many people don't get past this point.
To answer your question, a second degree black belt is a low expert level.

Answer 3

I believe that all martial artists despite their mastery are still students. Some students are far more learned then others. A second degree blackbelt in my opinion means mastery of the basic principles an excellent understand of when and when not to fight, And a good understanding of the spirit of a warrior. I would Honorably respect and learn from a second degree blackbelt. I would furthermore have no second thoughts about refering them by their proper title: Sensai and or Master.

I may be a rather young practitioner of the martial arts but the above is my understanding. I do not consider anyone an expert of the martial arts becuase no particular art can claim their art is undefeatable. Each art has its strengh and weakness. The only thing that seperates martial artists is knowing when and when not to fight. If this is understood then you are indeed an expert. If your like a common street thug a second degree blackbelt means nothing becuase by breaking the martial artists code of honor you are no longer a blackbelt nor an honorable member of your dojo should your sensai find out.

Hails to the warriors,
Silence

Answer 4

A common analogy that I use to explain the belt system is that a black belt in a particular martial art is like a high school diploma. The colored belts are like grade school. In grade school, you really learn what matters, like the 3 "R's". By the time you get your diploma, you should have a firm mastery of the basic fundamental subjects and now are ready for higher education. I agree that most systems don't recognize an "expert" until around 4th degree or so.

Answer 5

When one achieves the level where a black belt is earned they are just beginning their training.
A beginner will tell you this person is an expert. An expert will tell you this person is a beginner.

Belts mean nothing. From school to school or style to style they differ greatly. The only value of rank is it's releavance in the training enviroment. People seem to need order and labels.

In the beginning of my style there was no rank or belts. You just knew who was better from observation of form. Also, all training was done is secret as it was punishable by death.

I do not understand why people run around singing praises of what belt they are. This should not be advertised.

Answer 6

not a beginner , above average in competitions, but not an expert. you can get up to 10 or 12 levels of black belt I think depending on the martial art style

Answer 7

A second degree is really just beginning. They know the moves, but are just beginning to know the "hows and whys" of the moves. They are starting to learn about using the moves in different settings, and learning about self-control. But there are some people who know several styles of martail arts and never get above a first degree, and some who reach fourth or fifth degree in a few short years. It really depends on the person, how long they have been doing martial arts, and how teachable they are! It is the difference between a tiger and a dragon!

Answer 8

The belts in martial arts bear significance beyond denoting your rank. The idea is that the more you train, the dirtier your belt becomes, therefore it is white when you begin, and black when you have been training a long time. However, the black belt is not the sign of the master, rather, the student. As the student practices more and more, the belt becomes threadbare, the black wears off, and it becomes white again.

So a 2nd degree black belt is just beginning.

Answer 9

no they are not an expert, but certainly not a beginner. Im going to be a Nidan with Seido karate in a few months time, and Im no expert. An expert is someone who has dedicated their life to the study of Martial Arts, and spent many years learning, and teaching others. Typically the title of shihan designates someone who is an expert. That is usually bestowed around rokudan, or sixth degree.

The first 10 kyus are for beginners.shodan, nidan, sandan, yondan, and godan are for intermediate to advanced students. rokudan and above are experts.

Answer 10

A popular misconception in the USA is that a black belt is an expert. NO WAY. In Japan, you have to be sandan (3rd) or even yondan (4th) to even be allowed to teach others. I hold black belts and am by no means an expert. A black belt has a good understanding of the BASICS and is now ready to really learn their art.

Black belt is the beginning, not the end.