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I just had someone tell me there is "proven evidence" that Jesus existed and they don't have contact information so I can't ask where it is. Anyone else have it?

2006-08-16 06:46:44 · 32 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2006-08-16 12:35:23 · update #1

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They always haul out Josephus who never nmet jesus and so it was hearsay and not reliable. there is nothing that is more than hearsay, stories really become exaggerated when told again and again so we can't believe any of it.

2006-08-16 06:56:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

There were tons of other writings made during the first century or so after Jesus, but only some of them made it into the Bible. There's a Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Mary, and many other writings by Paul that did not make it into the official New Testament.

The test of many of these documents can be found on the web and if you research how the New Testament was put together I imagine you'll find reference to many writings that were left out for various reasons.

Note that many writings that mention Jesus express very different opinions about his message than those in the Bible.

Also, there are those that argue that without the Bible there is no proof that Jesus existed. But in fact there are many other documents that I've alluded to above that mention Jesus. Of course if someone says, those don't count either that's the same as saying, "aside from all of the documents that mention Jesus, are there any other ones" - that is absurd. If you discount all documents that mention anyone who lived 2000 years ago there is no proof of that person's existence.

2006-08-16 07:06:54 · answer #2 · answered by rj 2 · 0 1

According to the book Fable Of Christ by Luigi Cascioli the gospels of the New Testament were actually written about a certain fellow named John Of Galaga and his band of Zealots (armed brigands and terrorists), which included several of his brothers, the names of which you would recognize as the "disciples." But long after the failed revolution of 70 CE, Christianity was invented and those books altered to make it look like those violent brothers were peaceful emissaries of a new religion, going so far as to pretend that the epithets behind their names meant the cities where they lived, e.g. Nazarene (A member of the militant revolutionary monks called Essenes, famous for their Dead Sea Scrolls), when in fact those words referred to their status as zealots (Canaanite) and cutthroats (Iscariot). The name John of Galaga was struck from the record so the historical facts could not be brought to bear against the myth, and he was called Messiah or Christ for years until people demanded a name, and they stuck "Jesus" on there to further obfuscate the truth.

2006-08-16 07:07:37 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Josephus wrote about Christianity and Christ, but it reads like a first century encyclopedia entry.

But he also wrote about a big to-do in Jerusalem around AD 30 with Jews, Romans, and the new sect of Christianity all up in an uproar. One can only presume it was about Jesus' presence.

Then there's a note about someone a bit over a decade later claiming to be the messiah and coming into Jerusalem. Pontius Pilate, having learned his lesson, had him and his followers put to the sword as fast as he could, without the traditional public displays of torture and death.

2006-08-16 06:56:03 · answer #4 · answered by spacejohn77 3 · 0 1

Very little non-biblical evidence exists for Jesus. There are only a few, and even they are contested as being anecdotal, hearsay, or refabrications.

Much more historical record can be found for John the Babtist (which is odd, since you thik Jesus would be better represented).

For more information, see the links below...

2006-08-16 06:53:42 · answer #5 · answered by joetho 3 · 2 0

Josephus writings mention Jesus. Other contemporary historians mention Jesus as well. There is more existing secular, written evidence that Jesus existed than there is to confirm that Alexander the Great existed yet no one doubts he was real (and Alex even claimed to be a God, so why not dispute that?). Many secular historians (my antiquities professors included) agree that Jesus existed.

2006-08-16 07:11:42 · answer #6 · answered by Crusader1189 5 · 0 1

Hi Selnyk,

there are a lot of historical works- Josephus, Tacitus, who affirm the existence of Jesus. There are historians who noted a man named Yeshua who taught in the synagouges and created quite a stir and historically timewise it made sense. There is also archaeological evidence regarding the Bible. I'm sure if you dig a little bit you can find some. There are also a lot of great Christian books on the topic that you can find at your local Christian bookstore.

Hope that helps. Blessings,

Nickster

2006-08-16 06:54:13 · answer #7 · answered by Nickster 7 · 1 1

look for "The Works of Josephus". He lived during Christ's lifetime. He was a Roman historian who gave a non-christian perspective on Jesus' life. I had to read it in Bible college. It was interesting to get an outside opinion and proof that he really lived as a man.

2006-08-16 06:54:14 · answer #8 · answered by grl_addict 2 · 1 1

Roman historians Tacitus and Josephus both wrote about Jesus. Their works were outside of the religious world.

"[Roman Emperor Nero] falsely charged with the guilt, and punished Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius... "

"Josephus offers information about individuals, groups, customs and geographical places. His writings provide a significant, extra-biblical account of the post-exilic period of the Maccabees, the Hasmonean dynasty and the rise of Herod the Great. He makes references ... to such figures as ... James the brother of Jesus, and a highly disputed reference to Jesus. He is an important source for studies of immediate post-Temple Judaism (and, thus, the context of early Christianity)"

2006-08-16 06:55:35 · answer #9 · answered by Paul McDonald 6 · 0 1

There is no question by people of any religion that a man named Jesus existed 2000 years ago. However, there's no outside evidence suggesting that he was really the son of God.

2006-08-16 07:01:51 · answer #10 · answered by x 5 · 0 1

jezus defenitly existed, just check the library! I can't pinpoint the locations where you can find this information, but search your library. It is so that Jezus existed, but the Bible tells the tale of Jezus our savour, while the historians and archeologists and antropologists only have the fact that there was a man that called himself the messias, and that people followed him, but then again in those days there were a lot of men that called themselfs the messias. Jezus was just one of them.

2006-08-16 06:54:10 · answer #11 · answered by doornroestje 2 · 1 0

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