Doesn't "Christ is all, and in All" sound a bit pantheistic?

Question

Colossians 3:11

Did not Jesus also say we are all gods and that we would do greater things than him?

"Is it not written in your law, 'I have said you are gods'?" John 10:34

drink_more_p..., your right, it is redundant but the bible likes to be flowery from time to time.

bettyboop, I do not think that is what the passage was talking about even from a fundamentalist standpoint. I do though find your proselytizing approach sweet at heart :)

mashaunda m, doesn't it stand to reason if God created the world from him/herself then the world in proxy also be a part of the larger God?

jegreencreek, who says I don't? God knows my heart.

PicassoInAct..., hmmmm, I'm not quite sure if you are affirming my question or not.

billcompugeek, Maybe you are right about Jesus being God, maybe you are not. Do know that the concept of God fully incarnating as a human has been around long before the incarnation of Jesus, i.e. Ram, Shiva, Kirshna, and many many more.

cokeologist, As a graduate of Religious Studies I knew the definition of the word Pantheism a long time ago, maybe even before you did. That is if you really know what it means.

Jeff, Jesus' words were once considered blasphemy too and was killed for it. I wonder how many modern day pharisees are running around today.

Jeff, by entending the quote you only serve to beg the question more so.

mona75243, I talk to God all the time. How do you think I became a free thinker? God wants us to use our heads and question. We should not be afraid of the answers, but we should be concerned about being unduly influenced by systematized dogmas.

Yngona D, Assuming you are correct by saying it should read anointed are all in all, it still begs the question of anointed are all in all what? Are they all God in God? Your interpretation I cannot say is wrong in that they are all blessed. That very well may be true. More than one truth can exist at once.

whirlingmerc, your interpretation is valid. Yet if you have studied logic validity does not equal truth. I'm not claiming one way or another on this one but I am challenging people to think, not to just spout out the old status que.

pangel, loved your answer. Thanks for being so open minded.

rose bud, there is no crack pipe to put down here. Thanks for the colorful & dramatic statement.

rose bud, Actually I do not believe everything that is written, including many parts within the cannon.

Pick Me!, Opinions are like noses.....You're a smart boy I'll let you figure the rest out. Peace.

maybe ok, again, many truth exist at once including the fact that God holds creation together.

toniann m, Is this you or a church talking. There is a difference.

Answer 1

i do believe that we do hold a spark of the divine .. that we are parts of god or to put it another way we have god within us
so yes we are all gods in a sense , we have a god part
its like having your mother and fathers DNA .. if we come from someone/something ... isn't that part of us ?
and we can do great things ... some just don't realise how great we are

Answer 2

If you have enough good and truth in you, you can be seen as a god but that doesn't take away from the fact that Jesus Christ is fully God and man and cannot ever be surpassed by an angel or a human being or a spirit. Jesus Christ is Jehovah God in a visible body who is outside of time and space and is infinite and eternal and all-powerful and all-knowing and everywhere present.

Answer 3

Th quote" in all "is in reverence to the fact in Colosians it say by the power of God all things consist and have there being. If God were to let go every thing would release all the energy of every atom there is . And all things would burn much like He will do when H e said He will create a new heaven and new earth . God power and control is in all things. The quote " Yea are gods ' is found in the old testament and is talking of the Judges of Isreal . They had the power to kill or forgive so the word he uses there is a different word root than the name he call Him self, it could of been translated Judge or ruler.

Answer 4

No we arn't GODS, Jesus is the way the truth and the life NO ONE comes to the father except through him. He said we would do these works and greater THROUGH him and the holy spirit given by him. To say that you are a God is blasphemy initself. Jesus is Lord.

(Being a God is just another lie of Mormanism)

Answer 5

Christ is a Greek word, "khrstos", and means "annointed". When the Greeks first received the Aramaic bible they did not have a word for "messiah", which means "annoint; annointed one", so they replaced it with khrstos. So the word that all Christians use today is based on the Greek language.

So the sentence you use above would be translated: "Annointed are all, and in All (are annointed)." So, "No", that would not be [pantheistic]. However, it is a blessing that means (essentially), 'be blessed and in the company of the blessed, find blessing'.

Answer 6

Yep, and read the next part, "but you shall die as men."

Wonderful thing, expressions like "All you CAN eat" at buffets, knowing that even if we ate like pigs we will rarely eat all that we can--unless one of those eating contests is on. Fabulous thing, Scriptures, they tell the most scandalous things when cherry-picked for convenient expressions to be taken for display without the explanatory context. Let me guess, you are in law school and preparing yourself for a fine career of make-experts-sound-like-fools and make-fools-sound-like-experts. Words, like any tool, can be made to say, or sound, like things they aren't.

Jesus is the sum of the whole story of humanity. He is its beginning and its ending and wants to include us in a favored place when all is done. To that end, he died as a sacrifice for the punishment of our sins. To that end, God the Father raised him from the dead. To that end, he showed this to those he trusted. To that end, he rose to heaven and sent the Holy Spirit to continue God's presence with every believer everywhere. The sum of the parts of this body of believers, over the expanse of time and space, would accomplish His work more than the one body of Jesus did over the few short decades of his walk and work on earth. To the believer, it is not what you know, it is who--Christ. To the believer, it is not what you do, it is what you permit God to do in your life. The things we petty people do is perfectly worthless. The things that those beloved-of-God believers do for and by God because of the favored place before God that Jesus offers--those are things that Christ does in us. Pantheism? Nope. More complicated than a simple line out of context? Yep. Too hard to comprehend? Nope Available for anyone who would value what Christ did, said, and offered? Yep. Conveniently trendy and politically correct? Nope. For real? Yep.

Answer 7

This is the normal use of language

its like saying "my girfriend is everything", "he means the world to me"

And its not pantheist, Jesus is the creator of the stars, not in the stars and not the stars

Answer 8

He is MY All in All. He IS everything!!

Christ is saying we can ALL go out and be what we need to be, for this world. To the sinner, you can be a "sinner", if that's what you need to reach the sinner, for Christ. To the poor you can be "poor" if that's what you need to be to reach them for Christ. Not BEING a sinner, or poor, but letting your spirit make you as humble as you need to be to reach that person.

Answer 9

Try loving the Lord

Answer 10

If Christ is all, then by being in all, he's simply in himself. It's redundant to add the second phrase.