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I mean this respectfully I don't know the BIble well enough. Is it somewhere in Matthew, or Luke maybe?

Where does Jesus say - "heh you know what, when God said in Exodus 21:20-21 that if a master beats his slave and the slave lives, that the master doesn't get punished - god takes it back, ok? im sorry for not telling moses that no slavery is an immorral institution, so thats why im here, to get you people back on track"

where is that please, cause if not im just going to keep asking questions about why does god make slavery permissible in leviticus 25:44 and Christians are going to keep telling me that a) jesus got rid of it and b) it wasnt the same then as it was in 1850s america - to which I will reply exodus 21:20-21 which negates response b.


Please help me or I'll just keep asking when I see someone tell me in another answer that Jesus got rid of slavery.

2006-08-16 03:39:37 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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There is no scripture that he say's it's OKAY
Jesus said he came to GIVE life and to have it MORE abundantly...not slavery.

I know the atheist web-sites make it sound like the bible is Pro-slavery...but read it carefully what they quote...they take it out of context

2006-08-16 04:03:14 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

2 problems with your question:

Jesus doesn't do much in the OT. When the OT was first written, Jesus was never mentioned. When the Christians added stuff later, then his achievements were included. Basically, Jesus didn't free slaves in the OT. The only person to do that was Moses in Exodus.

As for the idea of Jesus freeing slaves, that's not completely true. He never said slavery was evil because, at the time, slavery wasn't so bad. 1500 years later, when imperialists began enslaving people based on ethnicity, slavery began becoming bad. My point is that during Jesus' life, slavery wasn't very harsh and Jesus never banned it.

2006-08-16 10:49:02 · answer #2 · answered by x 5 · 0 0

I think you've discovered a flaw in traditional Christianity. The truth is that if Jesus abolished slavery in the New Testament then most of the United States was breaking the laws of God before the Civil War.
However, if you believe that God continues to reveal things to prophets, the way Mormons do, then there's an explanation. Jesus didn't abolish slavery, although his teachings about loving one another hint at not having slaves, that was done with the emancipation proclamation in the U.S. (I believe the British had done so even earlier). One of the core beliefs in the LDS faith is that "we believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers and magistrates, and in obeying, honoring and sustaining the law". So, when Lincoln signed the aforementioned proclamation, slavery became wrong for us to practice.

2006-08-16 10:54:44 · answer #3 · answered by pelotahombre 3 · 0 0

Since slavery was acceptable in history, it is in the bible. I believe that when Jesus said to love you neighbor as yourself, that meant also "don't own anyone".
Also the New Test. tells us to obey the laws of the land. It is illegal to own people, therefore we don't anymore.

Was it the same as it was in Moses day? Yes, and Moses pulled them out of slavery. Just as we had a war and stopped slavery here.Probably not the answer you are looking for.

I have ministered to people that have been pimped out, owned, and women that have been locked in their homes by husbands.
I have seen women sold for dope, traded for motorcycle parts, to pay off a debt, given away cause someone just needed an ol lady for a weekend.

I assure that slavery is prevalent today just as in the bible. Maybe not in the form that you think of but there just the same.

and to the person that said Jesus wasn't in the Old Testament. He is in every book if you look.

2006-08-16 11:19:45 · answer #4 · answered by 2ndchhapteracts 5 · 1 0

I don't have something from Jesus for you, but how about this:

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." - Galatians 3:28

I'm flipping through the New Testament, and everything I've found so far refers to slaves as being more like servants, and even Jesus was a 'slave' -

"For even the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." - Mark 10:45

I'm no Bible scholar, but I do believe that 'slave' also means servant, and if you're looking for a specific verse abolishing it, then there probably isn't one. It is my personal belief that Jesus' commandment to love one another should have made it clear that the evils of slavery are not to be tolerated.

2006-08-16 10:52:19 · answer #5 · answered by ♥ Luveniar♫ 7 · 1 0

Paul's letter to Philemon is a good resource. If you're looking for a gospel, go to Luke. He tended to address issues with those in society who were marginalized. In the Hebrew Scriptures, you'll note that the Isrealites were slaves to Egypt which then would be a clear indication on its own that slavery is bad. Like the other responder said, read the whole Scripture.

2006-08-16 11:55:06 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

A few things; I will reduce the volume of my comments for brevity.
First, the scriptural old testament is not Genesis-Malachi; it is the law of Moses which starts in Exodus 20. Yes under it slavery was allowed.
Was the law of Moses done away when Christ died on the cross? Yes (Hebrews).

2006-08-16 11:33:43 · answer #7 · answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7 · 1 0

Ok Jim I have a scholars bible with subject index on certain subjects. For slavery it sends one to:

Leviticus 25: 35-55
Jeremiah 34: 8-22
Romans 6: 15-23
Galatians 4

I've looked at those and no where do I see what you are asking.

2006-08-16 10:48:44 · answer #8 · answered by genaddt 7 · 0 0

"Thou shalt worship thy sadistic master with fear and trembling"...lol .. seriously though .. I can't cite you chapter and verse .. but I can tell you that contrary to "doing away" with it ... Jesus' suggestion was for servants to acquiesce to their masters .. So Judas and Barabas were the better Che Gueveras and Thomas Paines of their day .. lol

oyvey223: "wasn't bad?"... sheez Spartacus and his international cohorts crucified all up and down the Appalachian way a few hundred years before Jesus .. the thriving Roman slavetrade and gladiator games for the lucky ones ..
Are you kidding?.. Not bad? .. would you have enjoyed being an imported Roman bath- slave prostitute for the patricians of Rome .. If you were anything but Roman, and either male or female you were "fair game".. "not bad"?????

2006-08-16 10:46:42 · answer #9 · answered by gmonkai 4 · 0 0

im a born catholic, born again wiccan! lol and its all bullsh*t to me. who on earth besides simple sheep fools would believe that our wonderful creator would create you with sin already on the books (from adam eating the apple) make it so that every cell in your body would want to sin, then when you die punish you for that sin. and all the while they have the audacity to say this god is uncondtional loving. wow an unconditional loving sadistic bas tard one of the best oxymorons ive ever heard. but they are refering of course to why they cant burn witches on stakes anymore cuz of exodus 18:22 that got repealled to with jesus so then why all the burning years where christians murdered millions of people only on the Hint they were witches! the whole f ing thing only is the excuse to be sadistic themselves. its all pathetic and the stupid sheep wont see that good luck.

2006-08-16 10:55:00 · answer #10 · answered by mournyngwolf 3 · 0 1

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