If some people who claim to be "atheists" "non-believers" ask you to prove the existence of the deity Christians believe in, it simply means that those persons are fake and are agnostics, actually.
Or they are anti-theists: another kind of agnostics, in my view.
Agnostics have some kind of faith inside, but they just don't like the religious, spiritual & philosophical patterns the way they are. Usually, agnostics create their own beliefs they like...
Real atheists and unbelievers don't pay attention to religious, spiritual & philosophical debates.
2006-08-16 03:20:47
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answered by Axel ∇ 5
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You don't have to prove water is wet, because it's obvious that it is, and proving so would be very easy. Scientifically you could get 100 blindfolded test persons and have them sense a few materials that are packaged alike. You would ask each one to describe for each material they sense, with all their five senses: how does it feel, how does it taste, does it sound at all, can you smell it, and what does it look like (when the blindfolds are off). Each of these 100 persons would tell you water feels wet, has little or no taste or smell, looks transparant and has no sound unless you play with it a bit. Then, asked what the substance is, nearly all would think it to be water. And the other substances to comapre it with could be syrup, oil, air, sugar and sand. Water would be among the things the subjects could most easily recognise.
Try the same experiment with god though. You can prove he exists, by setting him apart from other things that exist, or by letting people sense his presence in a 'controlled' way and set off against other things they might sense. I have sofar not heard of a valid experiment to prove beyond all doubt that god exists. There are however a few that prove he does not exist.
And if it's folly to prove to someone what you believe to be right, then what is the point of life at all? No politics, commerce, faith, war, country, culture, art or love could exist, without people wanting to convince another of a different point of view. And without all these, what would he have left? Not faith, certainly.
2006-08-16 03:27:37
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answered by McAtterie 6
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You state like proving water is wet. Why do you know that water is wet and land is dry. Why do you know that an apple is an apple, or an orange is an orange? Why do you know that a cow is a cow and not a horse? You know these things because you have been raised being told all of this. Just because one can not explicity prove that God exists should not falter a true christians faith nor make them upset. I respect everyones right to choose their belief . I ask they do not put me down for my beliefs. Belief bashing is wrong . To state something you know to be true or have heard is true is one thing. It can be put politely and a good conversation could happen. Putting each other down is wrong Why not respect one another and make the world a better place. One more thought, for anyone to condem someone to Hell they need to grow up and get a grip. That was childish and you do not have the power to do that. Everyone have a good day.
2006-08-16 03:52:31
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answered by wolfy1 4
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No, it's not like proving water is wet at all...we can all see and touch water therefore it's easily proven that it is, in fact, wet...
Just because you believe in something no one has seen or has ever been able to prove exists, doesn't mean it does. You can show me a cup of water (or body of water) if I'd never seen one and thus show me it is indeed wet.
Do you have a photo or picture of your god? Can you request his presence so someone not familiar with him could meet him? You cannot...no one can...or ever has been able to. But the burden of proof is on the person who believes a thing exists or a thing is true...
You do not prove it however, because you cannot...not because you choose not to or you think the need to do so is foolish...you cannot prove it to yourself, but have convinced yourself it is real (for your own reasons)...
2006-08-16 03:21:06
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answered by . 7
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It's not like proving water is wet, because everybody can tell on their own, through their own experiences, that water is wet. I personally would like a Christian or whatever religion to prove to me that there is a God, because I CAN'T TELL. I don't know. It's really offensive when somebody walks up to me and tells me 'hey, you're going to Hell and I'm not, even though I'm horrible and offensive to everybody I meet, just because I believe in something that may or may not be real.' I mean, if you guys could prove it, then yeah, I'd have to believe because it's fact. But at this point, it's not. It's questionable. And I think it would be wrong to pretend to really believe in something I'm unsure about. Isn't that just another form of blasphemy? I'm between a rock and a hard place here, man.
2006-08-16 03:20:27
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answered by gilgamesh 6
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Are you real?!
Maybe you should read your own questions...it means nothing of the sorts...
It is like proving that water exists, rather than proving it is wet.
You do not know that God is exists, you believe that you know that God exists, subtle difference that blows this question out of the (wet) water slightly.
...Christ, even the Pope (have you heard of him) has said that to believe in God requires an Article of Faith....Faith = a requirement to place one's hopes in something that can not be proven..
Don't let people wind you up asking to prove something they and you know you can't
2006-08-16 03:35:40
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answered by Anonymous
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It is because we are always asked what proves there isn't a God and so to turn rhe tables, many atheists and agnostics would like a believer to show them prove there is a God. Also, some people just like to get a rise out of others. FYI, I accept that everyone believes in a different thing and they have the right to, so I don't bother people to prove to me that whatever they believe in exists.
2006-08-16 03:17:26
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answered by green_eyedgirl81 2
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'cuz people keep trying to convert atheists. Naturally, the atheist response is, "I see no evidence for it, therefore I do not believe in it. Show me solid evidence, and I will consider it."
From a purely scientific standpoint, you don't assume something exists until it is disproven (flying spaghetti monster anyone?).
You look at the facts and then draw a conclusion based on your observations. With zero evidence for God, why should one conclude God exists?
By the same token, no-one has proven that the universe isn't all a figment of George Foreman's imagination, but should we assume that it is until we prove otherwise?
That being said, proof is not needed to believe in the existance of God for those who have faith. Hence religion.
2006-08-16 03:20:59
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answered by 006 6
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If we do not believe and know he doesn't exist, it would be folly and foolish for us to ask you to prove us he does. That's like asking someone to prove water is not dry.
2006-08-16 03:36:59
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answered by Prima Donna 2
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Because athiests don't want to believe in something larger than themselves. It's like the ancients who did not want to believe that the earth revolved around the sun and not vice versa. They wanted to believe they were the center, beginning and end of everything.
Evidence, proof, science, all of those things are locked within the construct of logic. Logic is a system based on rules. Those rules are created within that same system.
Like my mother used to say, you cant make a bed while you are still in it.
A mouse cannot analyze a maze while he's still trying to find the way out.
Therefore, the system of human logic cannot prove or disprove something that is outside the system. Like God.
Athiests and those who have faith in science, blindly believe that everything can be discovered and proven within the system of logic. They believe in logic as the ultimate path to find all truths in the same way religious people believe in the Bible, Koran etc.
They try to use one system to disprove the other and don't understand that it's like using chess rules to prove the sky is blue. Won't work, and even if you can twist the rules so that it looks like it makes sense, it is meaningless.
So, although they claim not to have blind faith, they don't understand that their blind faith in science and logic is a type of religion.
2006-08-16 03:44:39
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answered by grdnoviz 4
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Because, in cases of existence, the burden of proof lies with those on the "pro" side of the arguement.
Otherwise, we would also have to accept the existence of the Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot, the Tooth Fairy, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster, as no one has yet been able to prove that they don't exist.
2006-08-16 03:17:23
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answered by marbledog 6
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